Let's Play: Wing Commander: The Secret Missions 25th Anniversary Livestream

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   oh is it working do we have sound which is my best side is this on is it safe uh Hey guys hopefully everything's working uh we we had a about 45 minutes of testing and tribulations this morning but uh uh you should hear us uh let us know in chat if you hear us before I go into my whole opening Spiel here so there's about 30 second delay so we listen mic check check you have sound awesome hey guys thanks for joining us uh this is the wing Commander the secret missions 25th anniversary live stream uh we did one of these for Wing Commander the 25th anniversary it was a big success and Ben wouldn't let me get out of this so we're here again uh Ben this is your show man I can't stress the degree to which I wouldn't let him get

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   out of this by the way he's basically a death door right now his parts of his body I was at the emergency room this morning um so he's not as Jolly as usual it's because uh he's in constant horrific pain um which we all feel bad about but this is also one of those things we're going to laugh at someday yes but um we are here to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the secret missions the very first expansion for the original Wing Commander um wi Commander one came out in September 1990 and uh in September 2015 we uh we did a complete playthrough of that um and uh two months has it been two months September October October no three months later um they released the first uh expansion disc

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   called secret missions um which added 16 digital missions to the game um a whole new campaign and story um essentially put together from leftover assets from the original game uh back in the day you could only fit a tiny tiny amount of data on a uh three and a quar inch disc so uh there were ships they had paid for and developed that they couldn't ship in the game um we we'll talk about some specifics of that later because we're going to be talking about all sort of Nery wink matter history but uh secret missions came about from that it was part of the original development cycle of wing Commander one um the idea was there will be a fancy special edition much like there are this is actually a very common thing today it didn't happen back then there was going to be a fantasy special edition you had to order direct from origin um the box was signed by Chris Roberts in the corner his signature looks exactly the same as it

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   does now um it came with the uh wi Commander flight cap and uh you would get in the mail uh 3 months later the first expansion uh secret missions one uh the feeling at the time at origin was that this was sort of a one-off thing that uh you didn't do retail expansion you people wouldn't by Nature when you release a back in the day when you release a base game and you release an expansion that requires it it doesn't necessarily make Financial sense because people you know your your user base is limited to the people who own the original game or back then have pirated it um secret meres was such a success that it spawned uh half a dozen different Wing Commander expansions several Ultima expansions um basically a whole new way of making games for origin um I would say it's the

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   direct predecessor of uh digital download yeah um in fact we'll need to have some proper game historians to do this secret missions may have been the first DLC uh because it was then re re updated and re offered in 1996 as uh 1996 on the web as a download for part of the kathi Saga uh wind Commander update um so may have been one of the first downable games uh we'll look into that uh but secret mission is fantastic it's uh it's the story of the Tigers claw all the same characters we saw in the original game as they are sent Behind Enemy Lines to hunt down this massive kill Wy dreadn and they're they're Behind Enemy Lines for months and months and uh temper flare it's uh more importantly though uh the uh the

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   concept got expansions was different back then uh if I think up an expansion for Fallout 4 when those exist it'll be you know more content more of the game I I can go I'm sure they'll be you know areas around Boston that'll add that I can explore uh back in the day an expansion meant you know hey you you guys you guys jerks think you're really good at this game well check this out this is the next level of difficulty so both of the secret missions and the special operations for uh wi Comm 2 are extremely extremely extremely difficult um so it's going to be a fun challenge trying to get through them get through the uh first one today um um original wi matter had 40 missions secret mission and they but they were branching so when we played we played only 18 of them to get to the winning end game um secret

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   missions does not Branch it's a straight line there's a losing series that you don't want to see but uh straight line 16 missions each one extremely hard and you have to win each one to keep going so uh should be fun um met Lando of course already you know Lando um and this is Chris Reed he found it wi Commander news with me way way back in the day we've been kind of a wi Commander historians together for many years he came down from Seattle for this um wanted to you know be part of the fun um and you know we're going to have all sorts of trivia and information and history between missions uh we be giving away some star seon ships too um between I think each Series so every two or three missions we'll uh we'll break and chat and uh uh give away a ship because I I know

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   a lot of folks out there like ships um but let's start by taking a look at uhbd of the original secret missions box that is you do that for a second uh guys obviously this is the first live stream in our new office uh we're still building our dedicated live stream area so we're sitting here at my desk it's a very large open room it's not designed for this kind of thing I I I know you look in the chat right now you'll see everybody saying it's too loud it's not loud enough it's muffled it's clear it's it's it's peeking it's you know we're this is the best that we're going to have guys it's it's h this is not the optimal setup also warn you that they're replacing these skylights here today so you may hear um nothing at all while they do that um yes it's it's uh not the best ideal conditions but uh I encourage you to do whatever you can on your end

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   because we're we've done everything on our end like I said we had an hour's worth of testing here this is as good as we can make it right now so with that here is the original secet missions it came in a thin little box U this was actually originally designed as a mailer because the initial thought was that only people who bought the in first edition would uh be mailed this um and then they end up using it for the retail packaging um but uh you know as opposed to you know a standard origin game came with you know super impressive manual and little trinket and all sorts of guides almost nothing in see her missions there's a there's a small um reference C there's one there would you this is the reference was a little card with your uh your orders from the Confederation uh it says you are hereby

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    ordered to devot from your current position in Vega sector to the Gard system theb sector to provide support for Colony on God 2 further orders to follow upon arrival of colony all communication to add Mission as operation Thor's hammer um and that's it uh the dis the disc itself was just like Ben was saying how it was built with the first game or vice versa so when you got the disc out of the box there was one disc and that disc was labeled disc four because it was disc four of the first games package um it also added in the manual some more copy protection for the original Wing Commander um that's removed from the Go version you probably play today they actually hexed it right out of the game but uh see here there's

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    there's tiny facts about the G Colony at the bottom of each page uh that you have had to memorize or look up every time you played the game um how much beer The Colony exports when the neutron gun was invented on the colony that sort of thing um which actually said an interesting uh scene for the game because you don't really see much of the Gard Colony so these facts don't matter at all uh that's all you had to go on yeah you thought oh this is going to be whatever the Gard colony is now uh we will see its fate shortly uh and with that uh J gets back we will start up the game itself uh until then I guess we can look at some uh other audities um so Secrets has been uh re-released

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    and ported many times we'll go through the ports like we did the original wi Commander later on um you can see the the Box itself had a lot of references to things that um such as I think it refers to eight person Fighters like as a big feature it's four new ships including a crazy eight person fighter which sounds amazing talk about this a little bit um so uh they did we Commander one and uh probably one of the biggest you know outside expenses in we Commander one was rendering the ships through an outsourcer um much like on Star Citizen we you know we went to an outside person to create the sh because they did 3D models there was no Construction Construction sorry there was no 3D artist at or so um [Music]

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    they did uh there were four ships that were cut from the original wi Commander um if you play the original wi Commander you probably notice that a lot of the escort and attack missions will specify either a transport or a tanker which in the original game it would be a dorkar transport or a dorkar or a Draymond transport uh for any of those roles the original plan was it would be a Draymond transport a dilligent tanker a dkar tanker and and a lombari transport uh and they said okay we we need to cut you know X kilobytes from the game we're going to remove two of these ships and we'll just use the compat and KY transports for everything so this game adds back the uh the two one tanker One Transport for each side it also adds back the uh Venture class

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    Corvette which appears in the original incenter manual does not appear anywhere in the game it's a smaller human ship it would have been used in some of the escort missions in the original they got replaced with an exitor exitor destroyer and the exitor doesn't appear right in secret missions there no it does it it's going to be trouble remember oh it does not appear secr Miss super spoiler sorry um and uh the fourth ship is the Kari dreadnut that we're hunting down at the end of this game so the the feature list here says it's in you four new ships including an eight-man Confederate fighter uh that is the Venture Corvette that appears in One mission uh and it does not matter to the game at all that it theoretically has eight man it's it's not a multi Cru ship like Star Citizen it's just a particular

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    ship uh even more sad that our the storyline of this game means that you don't see many Confederation ships so they actually use up three of these ships in the first mission you're going to see the uh the Corvette the diligent transport and the lombari on the first mission you won't see the adventure or the diligent again ever in any wi Commander Mission at all um they really doubl down on the The Venture in some of the promotional stuff when when when Nintendo Power did a spread they made a like a painting with a fleet of venturers in space you know you see it one time so you know we're we'll go into some detail about that we talk about the ports there were some differences with the uh Super Nintendo

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    Port of this game that happened a couple years later and uh they will explain why it's kind of venture crazy um Jared you around keep going oh okay we were thinking of starting the game if you he's working on the sound we've been working on the sound all morning it's it's a bad space for it we hope you can uh make us out anyway um um also as you probably seen in the background um toast and Sandy are here they are working on unpacking boxes uh toast will come and fly with us a little bit later um maybe we convince Sandy to pick up the dry stick maybe not uh secret mission why it's never a good way to start playing win Commander yeah it's um kind of an interesting story about how um the

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    secret missions may have been the first DLC and then the availability of the Special Operations add-on expansions to win Commander 2 was also a uh an interesting thing about fan feedback and campaigns online because they initially on the box said additional missions available at Origins website and you could get the secret missions but the Special Operations expansions to win Commander 2 were not not part of that initial release and there was a that tiny little win Commander Community online in 1996 um you want come say hi fought back and got that released hello oh one that's the one we brought the games in oh okay cool gotta be quick around it's quicking the dad around here with me how is everybody good good we're getting ready to play

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    secret missions one um which you can certainly join in on once we get it started yay I'm just cleaning up so I will be back when are you starting a few minutes yeah yeah we're going to start right now we're going to do the first mission uh all right I'll be back you can see that it says start Vega Campaign which is Win Commander one and start secret missions on the same screen I can't um so since secret missions was designed as part of the original game the uh the hooks are all in there you it's part of the same executable um the only reason you would ever drop from it is there was a transfer program if you wanted to transfer your character from the previous game to the uh secret missions um but you if you if you have a complete version of win Commander you'll see

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    start secret missions when you start uh win commander. exe um that's not the case for secret missions too which was which was something they decided to do after secret missions was such a success so it's it's a separate executable and that let them update the game in some more interesting ways it also came with a a mission selector right that let you play any of the missions from Wing Commander one yes um wi Commander one actually has that natively it's a debug thing built into the command line but they they created a little program so it would be automated something like that was like a feature like you could almost sell something based off just you know something that seems like it should be it was in the game and it should be part of the game so this is exactly the same as the original wi Commander it's uh the same intro origin FX sound system and

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    uh everybody out there hearing music in SES all right start the uh secret mission so uh if if you do not transfer a character I figured we wouldn't transfer a character since uh we kind of want to see how many kills we get in this but that is an amazing feature you could take your character throughout Wing Commander 1 secret missions one and two onto Wing Commander 2 Special Operations one and two rack up hundreds and hundreds of kills over a couple of years of playing yeah I think there's 300 odd possible kills in wi Commander one and almost 200 in this one um and here we are back in the Tiger Claw um with uh the familiar faces J would

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    you like to do voices with me sure it's Dr shot class do you remember who we added to beat up before no no we figure out again second I know is I was Angel and it was very popular second AUD up a little bit shot glass well hi Maverick things are happening around here we've been making a lot of jumps but that's my voice I can't use that voice a lot of jumps they don't have to be an active duty pilot I don't have a voice for this guy Chris to realize that something unusual is happening oh keep your ears open and let me know what you hear okay that's better let's get some Exposition from

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    Iceman strange things going on strange things going on I was on the bridge a few hours ago just hanging out tiger clly received a coded transmission from high command the colonel ready it wasn't mic boost guys it was cuz I was standing right in front of the mic that's why I sat down put her non-essentials off the bridge since then we've been jumping like crazy we want to be boss man yes we'll know what's happening soon enough Iceman true very true makes sense Asian guy Maverick sit down have a drink I was just thinking

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    about a story I'd heard about the Gwen havar an exitor class ship that disappeared a few years ago there you go ex you don't really leave that old fairy tale do you I don't think it's a fairy tale ice foreshadowing I've never heard this story boss man what happened to the gavar supposedly the Kathy captured it intact in Dry Dock with all its fighter compliment and some of the crew and they've used it to deceive and Destroy other Confederation ships

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    no one who's encountered the gavar has survived to tell the tale but we know about it I'll believe it when I see it well I'm sure that's just flavor text we won't meet the by the way if anyone out there is Welsh you could please correct Us in the pronunciation of gavar um I know it's the Welsh version of like gvir or Jennifer but I do not know how say it um Mass yeah I'm a mass you know what I'll just use a joystic um by the way we have upgraded our joystick we are using an extremely heavy and fancy very nice uh thrustmaster warthog which uh in all of our tests so far has uh worked

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    very well um so our story so far uh at the end of the original Wing Commander the claw defeated the Kathy in the Vega sector everybody was happy um it's about 2 or 3 months later uh we've heard about this colony in the denev sector that's just gone silent um they've been tracking Kathy fleets they think it was an attack we're going out there to investigate um let's do it Miss briefing 0600 26 54110 do I remember how to do this guy quiet everyone we have a lot of ground to cover as you may have noticed the Tiger's claw has made several jumps today because we've been temporarily

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    ordered out of the Vegas sector several hours ago we received an emergency communication from the Godard Colony on the den in the denb sector a Kathy fleet has attacked the colony using some kind of new weapon unfortunately we've lost Communications with the colony now we're preparing to jump to G sir does this mean we don't know what kind of mess we're jumping into I'd be interested to go back and see if we're doing the same voices or not right we don't know the full extent of the kraay fleet and we don't know what's happened

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    to the Gard Colony for now no one is to talk about this to the crew however we won't be alone as we're scheduled to make a Rendevous with the Hickok she's a diligent class sport I hate when they transport also we rendevu with the Marciano a venture class Corvette Mission assignments out ge now we're going super fast jeez you'll launch immediately when we appear to the godhead system if there are any c in our vicinity take pictures of them and post them on the internet then I want you to go to nav one and Scout for any other kill rathy activity afterwards proceed to na point two where the Hickock is preparing to jump to Godard and provide support for her in the killay attack or if the Kathy

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    attack once she's jumped go to na point three where you'll meet with the Marciano these are already way more convoluted escort the Corvette back to the claw eliminating any threats Maverick you're a wing leader and hunt with Hunter is your wingman the Cal moves on to the other wing and Squad assignments your attention steps back to him as he concludes that's all ladies and gentlemen prepare for launch you will see that they have very kindly put us back into Hornets for this Mission um cuz you need a fast ship you're racing to the res to the rescue or something um and as you can see from the mission layout this is a lot more complex than the standard we Commander one Patrol or

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    escort this is a double escort Mission uh with a small capital ship attack included and uh pay careful attention cuz this is the only time you're going to see 50% of the new ships in this action salty remember them so Aldi kathi are their maximum AI and uh thanks to uh some Jared's settings we are uh a good bit smoother today here's your lombari there's the lombari

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    um one thing you'll find in this mission is that the lombari will jump out if you don't quickly destroy it so that's why I am breaking protocol engaging the transport immediately and then going back to finish off the fighters thought there was kindan enough to have gotten one before me so I hope you folks out there are all having a good uh Saturday yeah bit of a shaky start this

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    morning but uh these salty maneuvering very oddly they they don't get out of your way like they should see I now I'm down to one missile you know I fired off my dumb Fires at that uh lombari uh just to get it out of the way quickly and there's not really much of a use for D dumfires in Commander one what was he he thinks I shot something down are you down to two souy down to two yeah he got two of them uh yes for those asking he is playing with a uh what it's Hands-On

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    keyboard and stick technically so is that what they call it hand on sticking keyboard on you wouldn't really have played this game with a uhas with the hodas at the time um you can configure one but it's it's not significantly different than uh pressing the uh plus or minus hooked them up with a just got a war hogo there you go that's my cool Idris mouse mat look at that guy yeah that's Ben's Burger pin yes that's my b i I was I was going to look for a pin of the like a planet to celebrate having beaten the Vega campaign in the last one

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    uh watch it bucko you can't sucko yeah I can switch the webcams but not while he's playing so we'll do it between missions thank you for tuning in to a 45 minute dog fight with saly oh he's running and and I think I'm going to let him run yeah that's something that win Commander one does that some of the later games don't really take advantage of salty in particular will run immediately hey look more salty exciting rubbing a salt in the wound was it a 386 or a 486 that you first played

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    wind commander on uh it was actually a 286 um wind Commander when we Commander came out uh 386 was top top top of the line um and uh you likely would not have owned one uh so what you play a 286 or a very early um I didn't even own a computer when wi Commander came out win command 3 came out rock just hit that salty was cool I discovered win Commander with wing Commander 3 and I had to go to my uh neighbor's house to play it at his house and uh when win Commander 4 came out I bought it despite not owning a PC cuz I enjoyed it so much so I just had Wing Commander In A Box

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    the big red box with the yellow discs and had no way to play it cuz I didn't own a computer okay that was too salty in the es we haven't even gotten to the escort Mission part of this yet yeah used up half your after printer yeah fuel chasing them yeah that's why I didn't want to go after that one that was running yeah as you could tell from the last stream I'm bad at after burners I I burn them out very quickly um and I need to preserve them better least you're not ramming everything I also attend to run into enemies uh which I'm going to try very hard not to do this time around uh no I do not still have my discs I couldn't tell you what what became of them there's your diligent in the background

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    there tanker yep that was the diligent tanker is Attack by and Qui we again which is hard when your guns are very very simple lasers in this case sometimes ramming him as his tactic to distract him from your Escort it's a lot harder it one thing I am doing here that is atic is I am asking them to attack me by tating them sorry I turn out video yes uh Ben is probably the most strategic use of taunt tur person I've I've ever seen he gets pretty crazy with the

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    taunts it was pretty much what let you beat kirisawa one shot oh yeah it's an essential part of if you want to be ca you definitely yeah it's I I don't generally give Ben a any compliments but it was a pretty masterful use of ta and kirawa that day I try not to encourage him did did we lose the transport I didn't see it explode did it it may have jumped we'll find out in the debriefing I guess you you can't lose Gard secret same with uh what happened to the transport play honestly sir I don't know

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    whatever yeah my first computer was a Vic 20 and then we quick replaced it with a commodor 64 I just had this uh my parents divorced when I was young and I had this big period where only dad had the computer mom didn't want want a computer so I didn't have a computer growing up weapon none does it say weapon none gun Laser cannon uh cuz I've used all my missiles which is confusing sometimes because you have to hit W to switch to your missiles and then at later games it

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    switches to M for more logical in the last stream I remember uh Chris it's easy easy mistake if you haven't played in also with tab because now that we're all working on Star Citizen tab is I think free look or mode switch onight model Shi is Boost and I don't think it was ever that way in any other way yeah tab tab is after burn and then in some of the wi commander games shift um increases your maneuverability this one for sure yeah a couple of people have made Fairly SM remarks about Chris M being able to play his own game he's been working on another one for a pretty solid yes yeah playing playing in making something

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    is totally different even with lots of play especially once you started making it and your mind space is entirely there just having to remap all of his control well it it's clear from spending any time with Chris that Chris moved on after win command he moved on to wink Commander 2 move on to wingk command three move on to wink Commander four to you know the Privateer and all that stuff it's it's only some people who sit to my right here don't move on I hate to tell you this man but you're surrounded I know I'm surrounded by weak commanders no it it it is uh it is genuinely amusing to watch Chris Pocus head into a room and ask Ben a question about Wing commander and have Ben answer him and have Chris go right right yeah

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    that that was it and then take off and it's like what I don't you better than you know yourself I have a the relevant quote from a magazine I brought was uh was the October 1990 they had a pre viw of wing commander and what they said is the making of origin systems Wing Commander people will be talking about this computer game for some time to come video game magazine Gets behind the scenes with designers they were right here we are 25 hey more salty I'm also again not

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    sure where the adventure has gone because I saw a jump in it did not blow up oh I see Le you can hear the blow up music the cool thing in L Commander one is these all the nap points are in sort of a local space and ships can go from one to the other and you can manually go from one to the other some of the later games um your distances are so so different uh so far apart that you you have to autopilot between things so I don't think that went well at all I think we got away from the transport and it uh I don't think it was shot down but I think it got out of the grid and exploded so we will find out my

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    juice we're all friends here see me drink my juice you sure got yourself shot up Sir oh no I you say you sure got yourself shot up Sir that was The Voice hey if you're not doing anything later oh what okay you have to launch again in a few minutes let's make this quick I'm dressed in blue from head to toe except his hair everything but his hair you don't dress your hair though you're important Maverick see he takes a sweet time here a lari class tanker was getting

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    ready to jump out and that won it's history sir and we were able to keep the karate away from the hcock she's headed for the colony now I feel a little bit better about that now at n three we protected the Marciano from a squadron of cramp CR a very successful mission for the record your recorder credits you with killing 10 Maverick and Hunter came up with two good job Hunter two all right you have 10 minutes then get back to briefing with a capital B dismissed all right we are 116th way

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    through the game uh um I'm actually going to ask that we pause for a moment and make a change to dosbox okay uh the so we we enable smoothing stuff that makes it look nicer but it's covering up the Kathy icons on the thing so it's harder to trct them um just all all yours did you save it did you save it h yes I did I say it's all saved okay um we're going to make a dosbox uh dosbox dosbox dosbox um so if you're wondering where this takes place in the wing Commander timeline uh secret missions one starts on November 22nd 2654 and it runs through uh I believe it's was that your plug it's

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    2619 199 day of the next year which is I believe mid July July 10th 11th why' you take the um I didn't it out keep talking uh so uh that's that uh I'm I'm really happy that uh first mission went as well as it did cuz I thought I did terribly um and esine general just awful but that was that was the only look you will get at the uh Corvette and the diligent uh they will not appear again all right ever right show up later these laptops

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    had to be the only possibility so here we are back in Action um this is a scramble Mission so there's nobody in the bar for me to talk to I assume sh going to say essentially that hey there second Lieutenant Maverick can't I offer you anything alcoholic sorry I heard you'll be flying again today most of the pilots are already in the briefing room already that's bad writing I hear there's no communication out of Gard but I'm hoping that KRA only wiped out the colony's com satellite not the colony I've got a cousin of got it Zack seagler he's a shuttle pilot and his wife's a chief engineer if you hear about either one of them let me know and I'll try and get a hold of it myself we later learned there's a quar million people that go

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    but you better get to briefing room right now second Lieutenant but how does he think space works like oh there I was talking to one of the guys on the planet we're defending he's okay these our kills is Maniac in this game he is in fact we saw him in the last briefing oh if we had transferred in from the original Wing Commander we would have all of our medals and so on except frustratingly you can't save after the last mission of wing Commander one so you uh you end up planet you can't save later later in the secret missions there is an opportunity the secret missions two gives you your computer plet second computer Planet before the end of the game so you can have one when you save and transfer we matter two what end up not mattering since they don't justlo the medals in that game you you mean the

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    pter planet that eagley viewers might have seen on Admiral Bishop's chest yes I'm not sure if anyone's picked that out yet but if you look very closely at Abal Bishop in the uh Squadron 42 teaser we did back in October he has the P planet on his chest um I tried to find my own pter planet today to where cuz you know we beat the Vega campaign we should have a symbol of it I couldn't so instead I have a uh metal cheeseburger uh I tried to find my own peer planet um actually Dennis Lu who we talked to last time on Skype is going to be 3D printing uh original win Commander medals and uh we were all excited about that happening yes that I can get by got her two Mion briefing 0600 26504 1110 that's just the default date for Wing Commander

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    the later dates are random all right we know have much time we're making full speed to Godard and the crews are doing emergency repairs on damaged f fighters early T Telemetry indicates that no kill Wy capital ship stayed behind in the godded system we've had reports of some smaller ships therefore you killer bees will go Search and Destroy scour the godded system and engag in Destroy any remaining kraay tactical shows Bo is heading this way Fighters left behind to hunt for sports Kappa Wing is Maverick and Hunter you'll start by going after those Fighters once you've taken care of them you'll swing out to clear our path into the colony here's the setup you'll jump to nav point one where

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    long range scan shows something moving delete it I like that at now Point 2 you'll find a dkar class Troop Carrier they may be trying to leave the systems don't let them and when you've accomplished these objectives return to the claw next is maniac and spirit on beta Wing the Cal breach the other wings as you consider your orders he's not talking to you so you don't pay attention remember there are a quar million colonists in danger don't make any mistakes Pilots by the way one dismissed one kind of continuity issue with some of the early winand stuff is that they did not do a very good job of predicting what the population of a planet was going to be so this is supposed to be demonstating the 250,000 people are in danger when it really should be you know billions and billions yeah it's like La

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    actually La is bigger than 250 what's the population of LA toes just here um later on they would reverse that order uh and give us totally ridiculous numbers for the oh the Tiger Claw is under attack he cramp I actually kind of like these secret mission cramp because they seem to fly right in front of you the CR KN kind I get out of my way has lived here for a year now he just move here I still don't know the town that was Los Angeles population 3.8 million

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    so that's like six or seven seven or eight C of so I was really close when I said 250,000 do I look like counting see there's one one nice exception to escort missions which is that uh when it's the Tiger's CL you don't have to worry so much it has a lot of so we can hopefully leisurely take down these CR everything we we just uh posted your list app summary of The Tiger Claw Weaponry oh yeah wcw.com there's the stupid list app for iOS right now where you can you can

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    create your own listicles you know like all the horrible media sites do these days so I started doing wi command ones the other weekend one of them was the armorment of the Tiger Claw uh I watched I watched the different episodes of the animated series and picked out all the uh got all the uh shots of it so w.com for all your tiger plus needs it's very well researched it's not just list the list it's there's photos for each each one although I realized I I wanted to change one of them so I'll do that afterwards is overwhelming all of your painkillers Lando he used the word listicle listicle I know that's a terrible word that's not my word I know it's not your word I'm nearly saying 725 people heard you say list

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    I'm sorry everybody where do we find this list WC news.com new.com or if you use BJ nox list app I think maybe called list app uh you can befriend me I think I'm I'm sure I'm Bandit Loaf and we can share lists I did another wi better list but now I can't remember what it was how many times you made list about Wing Commander you'd have to extrapolate out and figure out how many times per year and then multiply that by 25 years great gra now the graa are doing extra damage to uh for those wondering yes we will be doing ship giveaways for Star Citizen spaceships I'm not going to tell you when I told them when

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    earlier when did you tell them we're doing a ship giveaway after each series of missions which is every two or three missions uh so after we're done with the god series there will be a ship give board and this is the second and final mission Series so after after this mission is one which you know I'm going to warn you not everything's going to be as easyest that first one we're going to have to replay a bunch this game is very very hard says the man who one shot kirala I will'll tell you how the giveaway works when the time comes it's pretty simple I think for our first giveaway it should obviously be a Super Hornet to Alon sticking Us in these Hornets oh

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    I hit it with a d fire I'm a great person you missed it could have gone in right through to the tiger yeah that would have been equally impressive don't Linda here that's a different stream don't cross the streams by the way allly wanted to come today but she uh send his name the apartment instead she may stop in later um she was kind enough to send me a low carb sandwich in an rd2 she back to us so Good Wife thank you I love you if you're watching this oh look look the

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    tiger CL took two sectors of damage so we save the Tiger's claw hooray doesn't feel so satisfying yes at some point I'm going to have to eat it'll be it'll be terrible when I do put it off as long as I can what's terrible when I have to eat oh men I'm going to have to yeah one of the one of the problems with L is one of the many problems with this scando that he can't eat right now okay a another laring although Sandy brought me a donut this morning I ate that oh weapon destroyed oh oh they killed my extra mile is your heat seeker heat seeker yeah nice

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    if you notice Hunter's uh Hunter's original Call Sign was Dart in the uh planning material but but but butt no I I said inste of swear I oh I definitely can't drink any soda unfortunately yeah pretty convenient you can't drink any soda I could put no carbonation in my system right now here's one of those great win Commander one moments I am down to a single Laser cannon wasn't there a version of the game where that was pretty much the best thing that could happen to you uh if I were in a heavier ship yes but uh in this Hornet it doesn't really help much you you rarely run out of energy in a

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    hornet we're not giving away PTU access guys yeah PTU is not a promotional Tool uh we we only give access as part of the process to testing uh I mean you know we we get a lot of requests for that we we just have to say know to everybody no matter how much we like to I had I had 220 PMS in the first hour after the live stream ended the anniversary live stream when we announced it was going to be to you everybody was suddenly my best friend suddenly I was the best community manager in the whole world excuse me got I mean I I think I've said this a couple of times to different people and

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    mostly As far as PTO access goes I have no control over any of it but I I do have two thoughts um one is I'm glad people are that eager to play the game uh that's that's really great actually I don't think uh we'd you know separate things out into a PTU versus normal uh if we have to um but I'd also like to remind anyone who's really that eager to get in we don't intend to string out the PTU any longer than it really needs to it's a test phase the idea isn't to make the PTU a big thing the idea is to get it out to everybody so I kind of compare everybody who's on the P2 to like taste testers in a kitchen the food is not ready you're helping to taste it and get it ready for everybody else and the sooner we get it out to everyone's table the better um it's only so privileged

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    when you realize you're eating stuff that doesn't taste that good yet I'm dead this is what it's like oh he died in the last one didn't he yep I can actually promise the people working on the game want it out on live just as much as you guys do speaking of the um long dialogue one um the you'll see house you know sometimes goes on speaking longer than he should as we uh noticed during the briefing that's because in the original wi Commander one Chris was just ABS you one one of Chris's things was the the mouth movements had to match the script so there's a second script in there that uh

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    is all the mouth movement how your how your character talks in a you know how the how the face matches the dialogue in this one uh Chris had moved on to a we to a strike commander and the folks were a little less uh dedicated so the uh the mouths uh sometimes they're insulting you they're calling you a hipstick over and over or they are saying byy win Commander 2 byy wi Commander 2 by win Commander 2 um I don't know if that counts as uh what do you call it when there's a hiden message hidden message a secret mission it's a subliminal message that phonetic script is

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    something people are just now kind of getting the hang of reverse engineering and trying to um modify for fan mods and stuff there are people that are still hacking this engine apart yeah back in the day there were not a lot of for wi Commander one it was mostly you know save file hacking uh you know change the guns on a ship so it's a super weapon that sort of thing um these days people are finally starting to create their own campaigns uh but it's been a close system for many many years how many secret missions will there be in Squadron 42 uh well I can tell you um when we started out we decided we were going to do expansions just like they were in the wi commander and we uh we gave one of

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    them a name as part of the first uh Kickstarter campaign we called it uh Behind Enemy Lines which is a nod to this game which takes place Behind Enemy Lines um we uh have since decided oh that'll just be the next game in the game so it's it's going to be a full full campaign with its own map shoot and new assets and all that that's so that'll be SP 422 um and everybody who was in before whatever go it was like the 5 million or something goal we'll get that for free uh but uh we we definitely do want to do traditional uh Miss campaigns smaller ones bigger ones whatever you know if uh if squadrons are hit we want to do as many stories as we possibly can and uh

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    an expansion like this is a great way to do it uh low cost to us and uh and to you this this cost about half as much as in real game at the time MSRP on wi Commander one was uh 69.95 this would have been uh $29.95 if Squadron 42 is going to be a hit yeah it would definitely be a hit well you know it's it's going to be an amazing game but is it going to be something that everybody in the world appreciates uh s question asteroids oh it's not asteroids that's another lombari lari do you guys have any Easter eggs

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    from Wing Commander hidden inside the SC World absolutely we just talked about one yes uh in case you didn't join us before or you missed it you know you were making a sandwich or something uh go back and check the uh Bishop Senate speech you'll notice a little peer Planet metal from Wing Commander there on Bishop's uh Bishop's chess I remember remember the day that was created Forest came down and goes hey Ben is there anything from Wing Commander we can we can put we can put in there if it's like well yes there is which is like it's like there's no greater summon for Ben Lesnik than hey is there something Wing Commander we can do happens a lot in this job too I remember when we were doing the John ra D for for uh squatter and Dave hadock was like oh is there

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    anything we can not anything we can give a nod to his uh commander see that game uh Ben and I have shared Wing Commander jokes about Star Citizen that we'll probably never be able to share publicly absolutely about star Citi we love you but you're human just like we are I'm trying to go for that lari before it jumps out but uh all right you're Sans Hunter again I'm Sans Hunter what happened to Hunter

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    killed last he died which he's dead already dead yeah so if we go on from now Hun's going to be dead no I this is our last mission with Hunter we have solved our continuity problem with the last play through uh that's true right Hunter was the one who died last H stupid hun our universe does not 100 to be alive no although um obviously my is in terrible shape so it's certainly possible that uh you lost your ejection system so yeah that ship in the background on the desk is it the tiger clock it is from the movie this table our our commissary area the kitchen area where everybody can congregate eat what it's still under construction so for the last two weeks they've had these tables right behind my

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    desk that they fill up with food and drink and and everybody throughout the day is here picking food and drink and eating here at lunch right right next to my desk so for the uh uh for reverse the verse yesterday I I I cleared all the food stuff off and just filled it with a bunch of random stuff hopefully they'll get the hint to stop bringing all the food directly to my desk they probably won't I'll come in Monday and there'll be a bunch of food there and that's how you feel dork here one layer that's how kill the Dork here insert dorky name here well everybody remember how old was Chris when he made this game uh let's see 20 21 20 22 23 somewhere around there yeah everybody who's watching

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    remember what you were like when you were 20 I was awesome I was um thinner so was I I was really pretty uh Lando what are you going to do in the p in the Pu um well in the 5 minutes I'm going to have to play I probably do fuel runs in my starf I'm not much of a pilot I I I I I I do really like the idea of being an Intergalactic Jack Burton you sure got yourself shot up sir you you going to say anything sir no all right that's cool Miss should de yeah I just welcome you every time you land sir you never say nothing our Comm people still haven't

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    been able to raise anyone UNG goded but our Landing crews are now nearing The Colony itself with any luck we'll know something soon they're not even trying with the lips anymore all right then you cruised out towards nav point1 and um that's where I stopped the lombari sir what do I say about interrupting me I didn't have two I was able to defeat D what I wasn't able to do is keep my co-pilot alive I was sorry to hear about hunter's death he died in the line of duty fighting the enemy enemies of humanity I

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    know I was there Maverick your recorder shows you down 12 this round Hunter you had zero Hunter was blanked he came up with no kills sloppy very sloppy wow talko about is lost wow all right I knew there's a reason I gravitated to this guy this guy's awesome I know you're dead Hunter but you didn't have to suck too well last one L pilot taking up space in our mess hle I need you to stay awake you're still on duty how turned into a major dick Maverick clean up I need to see you in my office in fact clean the whole hair dick bring that guy who welcomes you we're gathered here to pay our last

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    respects to a good friend not a very good pilot but one of the Teran confederation's boldest Defenders Captain Ian sa SL he never let the fatigue of battle wear him down he spirited attitude and passion for Duty were without equal and now that he's gone you should all strive to find in yourselves an ellipses the strength of character that Captain St John possessed I just realized my mic was off this whole time hold on none of you can hear me let's do that again all I'll left a glass to your memory Hunter goodbye you di heing my alcoholism fire fire it's three shots it's been three

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    shots since the beginning of military history but I'm going to tell you each one in case you don't know well he's our commander an episode of Doug that parody's win Commander has the funeral no I was saying that you couldn't hear houseen because houseen was in a spacit and if he didn't turn on his internal mic nobody would have been able to hear what he was saying I I was I was being fun office I was being Blair come in I need to speak with you yes sir we're having to change some pilot assignments and you got Hunter killed effective immediately you'll be reassigned

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    I need you in a I need you in Star Slayer Squadron flying a raptor class heavy fighter I want Star Slayer Squadron in our universe I see sir I'll do my best if I were me then I would be a lot more excited about getting moved out of hornets yes Good Pilot I'm glad to hear it good pilot Good Pilot that's all second Lieutenant dismissed wait to not promote me for all of that oh wait I got a medal H's death did not cause enough metal points to be L for excellence in combat with a kill WTH the enemy just going to stare at you on or

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    about 2654 point we don't really we're not really big on time here I mean it just happened honor about does that change a wink matter too honor about Confederation presents the Silver Star a second Lieutenant Blair honor about just happened also why is everybody's face melted everybody at this presentation looked inside the Ark of the Covenant your courage is an example to the conf of to the confederation's finest Defenders of which you're not one no you didn't defend Hunter very well did you well done Maverick congratulations you were loaf last time we we to played before you were loaf oh I forgot thank you

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    sir so that that first series in a hornet one thing a lot of these Chris Roberts expansions bu with fine you make the Applause of your crew mates they they're so mean to you with the first missions uh the work meanwhile strike the Gard Colony 26541 one0 honor about 6:00 everything's 6:00 in the morning on 1110 yeah nothing in this universe happens at 7:00 in the morning it's always 6:00 in the morning I believe the 6:00 is pulling a number from the emulated Doss box that doesn't exist yeah you had that excuse last time so the got cop is kind of lame oh you seriously you're just showing us

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    wrecked let's get some wrecked in chat wrecked oh my gosh it's still wrecked after the devastating attack by the krai secret weapon it does look like Detroit ouch there we go there's the rects good job people all right was it like the music I was like we have to play all this music I worked really hard on this music the scene's not long enough just stretch it out then just stretch it out oh look at that guy's

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    hand it's looping now it's I think this is a uh this like a do boxing normally it should smoothly scroll although it's not far off the actual experience instead of Escape if you hit enter will it go next line yeah All That Remains of the once proud human Colony are skeletons of buildings well that like to right that guy's hand made it through there are no survivors on goded only wreckage and ruined I realize that the tone the timber of my voice does not match severity of this message would you like to know more I don't say that I I haven't watched I haven't watched Starship in like three years we'll have to fix that soon no kidding I used to watch it like twice a year it's a very enjoyable movie now one

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    thing people probably remember for wi Commander one is that there's always a losing and a winning version of each cut scene so a lot of people played the game got to this point said oh no we lost the colony we have to go back and they played these first two missions over and over again trying to figure out what they did wrong there's no winning version of this cut scene didn't the secret missions or at least Crusade ship with a mission tree uh yes yes Testament to the Shi in the balance of power now held by the okay can we what's going on much anguish is always saved by people who bother to read all right let me uh save the game and we're going to give away a hornet Super Hornet yes all right guys so this is how it works uh I'm going to start the raffle everybody that's here watching can type exclamation mark raffle into twitch chat uh we'll let

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    that go for for like the duration of the next mission and then so everybody has a chance to get their entry in and then we will draw at the end of the exclamation so raffle is open so you should be able to exclamation mark raffle and will you dance for the camera for just a moment while I go PE yes I'll be right back folks you can dance if you want to you can leave your friends behind I can't think of the rest of lyrics right now that's enough that's enough give me what's that secret missions right there is that something needs to go somewhere this is our original box ah

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    so now we're alone uh yes for those who asked I uh I went to the Urgent Care yesterday during the day and then to the ER early early this morning it's been a fun 24 hours for for disc orando his whole inside's just decided to melt but yeah doing good now what if anybody has one of these that isn't just flat every single one I know of is just is what yeah that was the nature of that box that was kind of boxes back then there was just no way for them to survive that's 25 years in a fluency cardboard buck so how you doing Chris Reed I'm doing good where'd you come from I flew in on an airplane from Seattle this

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    morning Seattle hey we were just there's a train that goes from here to Seattle the the the coast the the the coastline Express the it's super super Swanky it's like retro futuristic and it looks great it's it's like whole cars are completely open you just see the ocean we were like man I want to be I want to ride that train but we were just saying we don't have any reason to go to Seattle I so much stuff you will throw a party throw a party we'll come for it mhm um speaking of speaking of those really swink trains um when we were doing the Genesis Starliner I think um Disco you were talking to Ricky about that one and there was this whole discussion as whether the Starliner just because of the distances and the jump points and

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    the nature of the journey should it be more like a well like a really nice train or or or one of the horrible airliners that we ride in today where they just kind of stuff you in there like cattle I I swear airliners one of these days um we're just not going to have seats anymore I feel like they're just going to install railings across the top and hang Us in dry cleaning bags and hook them up up there and just kind of Swing there like dry cleaning land you you seen the proposal from one of the airlines to have the seats interlocking like a zipper so you're actually sitting three people facing this way three people facing this way to maximize space so it's literally like us like we we'd be sitting on the air like this hey hey that's how we're flying on the airplane yeah it's terrible any airline that does that airlines are the worst oh you make Berlin No I rode a Russian airline once

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    that was actually reasonably comfortable the only thing about it is that if you looked at it um it was very clearly a bummer chassis uh by the way uh the bot only counts one raffle guy so there's absolutely no advantage to entering the raffle more than once all you do is annoy people Air Berlin Air Berlin had some issues yeah we're we're booking Luke tza next time so we got secret missions one is kind of pre- wi Commander continuity um there's sort of a wing Commander standard Blair Maverick Admiral towin Hobs KY Trader that goes throughout everything else this is the last grasp of the original win Commander writers um um which I noticed this morning because

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    you orderers from the Admiral from Admiral St instead of Admiral toin so um this this is there's going to be a tone shift when we get to the missions and wasn't the writer for this Aaron Austin who did claw marks yes Aon aluson did claw marks writer on this um passed away a couple years ago unfortunately uh much more famous for her Star Wars Star Wars books than uh somebody's asking about Birdman Fara that's the next one that's secret missions 2 oh okay so Birman are in secret missions too the commander is uncharacteristically silent you won't see bman for a few months he studies the papers before him then speaks quietly I'm sorry to have to report bad news the Tiger's claw arrived too late the GED Colony has been completely destroyed a quarter of a million tan

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    colonists have been too fast the brief room is completely fent silence is happening we're still hunting for survivors but things don't look good my condolences to any of you with relatives ungod they're not ungod anymore we've tried to reconstruct what happened there this is what we know okay I I just realized something um let's restart this Mission because we forgot to read the wingman dialogues one of them was Angel and I know everyone is waiting for that oh yeah so we're going to what control e oh Al X to I was trying yeah there we go on this side I can't remember what our reject is

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    uh okay let's uh let's try this again oh yes you haven't lived until until you've heard Ben as a Belgian woman oh and I get to do Maniac too mck I've been hearing some bad rumors search your rest teams are back from Planet Side they were only on the ground for a few hours and now they're not talking I can't get any answers from the bridge check out a sweet turtleneck though nothing except to pipe down and do your job which is bartender and Colonel Housey look like he wants to bite somebody's head off so if you get any news on what's going on pass it my way see you later pck it's probably like do your job

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    myt Maverick it sure has been a been tense around here lately Butthead all the higher ups got their shoulders and teeth clenched more than usual I mean what a butthead I've been I've been a little tense too having some trouble sleeping at night too many buttheads I keep having this dream over and over again we're in action against the fur bags and and up ahead is the biggest Kathy ship I've ever seen and all my guns are gone my missiles are blown and the shields are at null and my hands are shaking shaking as I pull the throttle cuz all I've got left is a mine in my belly so I go into the dive straight at her side missiles are exploding like stars around me and I hit the Kathy ship

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    straight on and then I wake up like a butthead I know it's weird weird but I I can't stop thinking about that dream I think all of us are under a lot of stress right now no but we will survive this mon me which an iPad with a pencil hello Maverick it was very active this morning no the other Wings ran into a hord of CRS and suie W you with the dog fight hi did so many snap rolls I'm still a butthead I understand that we will be Wing mates

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    today I shall see you later at the flight deck mavic we will give the cats a run for their money we there you go everybody that's the reason we do this Mission briefing 0600 2650 4115 goded system the commander is uncharacteristically silent he studies the papers before him then speaks quietly I'm so sorry to have to report bad news the Tiger Claw arrived too late the godded colony has been completely colonists have been killed the briefing silent we're still hunting for survivors but things don't look

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    good my condolences to any of you with relatives on goded we've tried to reconstruct what happened there this is what we know according to a blackbox reading of radio chatter and Comsat data the Kathy arrived at the colony 5 hours ago they brought only a small Fleet but they had some new kind of weapon our best guess is that this was the first use of a Kathy technology use some kind of energy weapon something that godded orbital imp placements couldn't deflect the kill rathy weapon wiped out the entire Colony nothing was left according to God Earth comsats a single energy weapon blast registered on their screens that one blast destroyed the colony and our current defense systems can't counter it

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    we don't know whether or not this weapon will be usable against Starships but we can't risk the kathi destroying another Colony so we've been up in jump space Communications with our high command and our orders have just come in listen closely we are to proceed at all speed after The Departed kathi Fleet and we are to destroy their vessels and this new weapon this means we'll have to follow their Fleet Kathy face I don't know why I emphasized follow keeping a low profile and that's then wipe it out completely and then get the get the hell out of here furthermore you may encounter some technical problems as we enter Kil rathy space so don't be surprised if nav points asteroids or Minefield information is not accurate on your

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    screens you must fly your assignments diligently follow your flight path to the letter all right these are the mission assignments all wings will launch to escort Tiger Claw then you'll fan out to clean enemy ships ahead of us individual Wing assignments the fal gives specific orders to each wing and then Epsilon will be Maverick and Angel Maverick is leader these are your orders second Lieutenant you couldn't have said wing Commander once the area around Tiger's Claw is clear cruise to nav one and then that region is clear return to the Tiger's claw good luck Pilots dismissed I mean what an opportunity to use Wing Commander Maverick is Wing

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    Commander it's confusing cuz houseon is the wing Commander cuz this whole time you're not even playing as the wing Commander you're the commander of an individual Wing but you're the weak commander of the Tigers St well there's this whole weird like uh split military structure for all of the um Confederation Confederation ships right like it's the space force that runs the fighter wings and the Navy operates the capital ships so you actually have uh two different like separate command structures on on carriers in the confederation so helon is in charge of the the fighters um what's the captain's name well that's an interesting question that I can go on about for quite a while um ah what have I done so we're actually going to see in the dialogue in this

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    houseum will make some references to the fact that he is the tiger's claw Captain right now he's I think there's a line where he says he doesn't want to command a slag ship um it's all our fault for letting that graa crash into the bridge um in secret which happens to his hero doesn't it does in uh in the next add-on the Tiger of an actual Captain Captain Thorne uh he's referenced in uh secret missions to uh Freedom flight and some other sources uh of course if you saw the wi command movie which took took place uh almost a year before this uh the Tigers claw Captain was uh Captain sansy who dies in the course of the movie and is replaced with uh acting Captain Gerald uh oh look that CR running away that was

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    nice um that if you watch the win Commander Academy animated series the commander of the Tigers clubw again earlier in the year is Admiral towin uh Michael mcdal character these are space mines and they are pain as it turns out I asked a very involved question um so there is a way to work it all out in continuity uh but right now halan actually is the captain of the Tigers claw it's nowhere near this complicated in doe is it it just wait yeah not yet oh God very complicated at this point in Wier and secret missions either this is what happens when you have more than one team of writers working on yeah they didn't have a cherry hyberg back then

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    nice trick with the uh raptor is you really have to make sure your shots land as best they can cuz you get you know three possibly four out of a capacitor and then you know you can hear I'm I'm hitting the trigger it's not firing cuz I don't have the energy but when you can make them hit it's very satisfying oh that was good yeah deflection shot yeah the Hornet is hard it's every other ship you've got pretty good pretty good offenses but no yeah rarely do you get as as um weak a set of guns as in the Hornet when you start wi Commander 2 you're in a faret with mass drivers that's pretty good I don't know totally as9 and

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     incomprehensible military command structures make it more realistic now the tech Federation Navy does have its own Pilots we see them occasionally but the Tigers plays uh this is space force wi if you're interested in the specifics of the Tigers claw we are serving as part of the 88 fighter wig uh attached to the TCS Tigers claw cv7 you're in a Rapier now right no I'm in a raptor Raptor Raptor rap Raptor he's in a raptor now guys based which is a visually the it's the uh it's the ship from last star yeah that movie has a terrific score easily the best thing about that movie some good stuff about that oh there's plenty of good so I'm saying the best

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     thing about that mov though is the score the score is Way Beyond what that movie deserved I saw it in uh 35 mm at the draft when I moved first for this Austin was in terrible Lando who is the guy behind you and Ben he's a spectre please ignore the man behind me in Ben that's Chris Reed uh Chris Reed uh uh uh helps to run or runs I don't know what the deal is but wcw.com the premier Wing Commander news site yes and if we had been able to hire Chris Reed for first season early on the game would be done now he would be an amazing producer unfortunately he builds airplanes now which is a

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     uh less crazy job to do yeah I could have G I could have launched off on a whole thing on airplane seats cuz I'm actually in charge of where they put airplane seats in uh for the 737 make them bigger well that's up to that's up to the customer sounds like you talk it he said where they go not I lost a guy that doesn't happen on the Raptor so much why why doesn't WC news do Star Citizen because it's WC news that is an excellent question we have many been asked that many times and obviously like you know all the people that work on WC news.com are you know follow Star Citizen but there's so many people that follow Star Citizen they have YouTube

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     channels and other websites we you know our if we fol changed our Focus then who would cover win Commander every day so we make sure win Commander gets covered every day and I to be honest we made that decision many many many years ago uh we did not cover starlancer freelancer um you know obviously we love everything Chris does except for bad and why me mean to Bad Blood F game um and uh but you we want folus on week matter and uh I think it's for the best you know let let the let the new guys Inn and so on two star y Lando what is the answer to life the universe and everything a froy du by the way I'm

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     killing you see look how I am so much I don't know what the answer to life and everything is but a cheeseburger would would be a nice yeah Raptor's my favorite yeah I I I like it I actually like Raptor than the Scimitar uh the Rapier is just too touchy uh for me yeah I I prefer a heavier ship yeah they build up such a mythology about the Scimitar being the slow lame ship and the Raper being awesome but I you yeah I I could see there's a lot of cases where you want the simitar I really like the simitar because the game is very different when you play it um the Raptor has tons and tons of power the Rapier again I agree too touchy but otherwise uh you know you manage it right you're

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     really not in that much trouble in most situations the simitar has thins just a little too thin uh has Shields just a little too thin to take a missile hit so you get your armor burned off 1 centimeter at a time and it um andit yeah it it really changes kind of the urgency that you uh feel when you're flying a catar as opposed to any other ship I thought that mission was a little too I I did appreciate how the the colors you know Winger one is a very colorful game compared to some you know a lot of games and so the pornet is bright green and the Scimitar is is Muddy red and you know the Raptor is uh you know what you would expect from star fighter yeah but um yeah they're very bold with the limited color palette I um I think I might have said this

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     before but the one of the reasons why I remember just getting so attached to the ships in when Commander one particularly was because they had so much character there were a lot of games that I played later where there weren't cockpits and even if there were the options I would turn off the cockpit cuz I was playing the game and I wanted better visibility and so for a long time I would always just turn off the cockpits cuz it was easier to play the game uh and then I I wondered why I just never got his attached to the ships well we it backfired we got what we wanted because when everybody when they started making invisible cockpit games you know Wing Commander Armada wi Commander 3 I think everybody everybody went to Invisible cockpits when it was it was a feature selling point for Kathy song but then you get Towing Commander 4 and prophecy and when your your beautiful cockpits are no longer an option you know something a little bit

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     is missing I actually talked to Chris about I look the tiger St got one that's awesome I actually talked to Chris about that you know it's it's it's been kind of the claim for many many years that wi command 4 didn't have cockpits because people didn't like them people didn't want cockpits and that claim spread to every other game in the world that like oh we don't have to do cockpits anymore um the reality is that we could afford didn't have cockpits because it had a 10-month development cycle they had less than a year to make the at the time most expensive game ever made so that was an easy thing to cut since people there were indeed lots of people who didn't like the cockpits um but money enough and time it it would have uh that was a very very easy mission for

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     secret secret Miss now that you're in the Raptor yeah looks like got a little hot out there sir come back to my place that's the end of the mission so we're going to close the the drawing or raffle now so close the raffle it should debriefing I got to do my lines then we'll P we'll draw the raffle good you're both alive report second Lieutenant we encountered a frothy at na one she won't be back sir all right Maverick you knocked down 14 Angel didn't toast any cats this this time okay you've got some time to rest before your next mission

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     Maverick I need to see you in my office that's 14 in a very easy mission in we Commander one it was crazy where there would be nine dismissed raffle's closed guys don't need to keep entering it's already closed we're going to draw in second Blair come in I need to speak with you yes sir I've been looking over you the performance reviews I've been reviewing your record and I have some good news I decided to promote you effective immediately congratulations immediately first lieutenant Blair keep up the good work thank you sir I'll do my best we need to get Sandy to do a

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     voice Good Pilot I'm glad to hear it Hunter maybe we get to spirit Spirit has that's allang in the intro dismissed I'm trying to get what I'm trying to get here all right tight we're going to do the drawing doing your best for the voices for those other games all right guys we're going to draw this is for the winner of a Super Hornet and the winner is tur Winker tur Winker tur Winker congratulations tur Winker you're the winner of a Super Hornet uh please send a private message to the cig Community Twitch account with the email address that your Star Citizen account is connected to and we'll assign that Super Hornet to you sometime next

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     week if you don't have a Star Citizen account for whatever reason you can create one at robertsspaceindustries.com and then message us with the email account and we'll sign your supern to you sometime next week good job tur Winker excellent ey raffling um well before we continue with the Border Zone let's take a break to look at a video okay can you bring up the video um so in 1993 or 1992 they ported the original Wing command to the Super Nintendo we talked about that last time about all the uh changes and the stuff Nintendo requireed they serve desserts instead of drinks in the bar he can't smoke uh they cut down ships and missions and so on so for secret missions one they did it as a

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     standalone cartridge um and you want to grab some secret on we got some over there we'll although this is on screen right now we'll show you the we'll show you the actual package in a moment um in this case they actually added things to the game um you know as an add-on it could follow red wi Commander one it didn't need a big cinematic intro there wasn't any room for that and so on for for the Super Nintendo Port they actually created a new intro for the game which we're going to show you now thanks to a YouTube video from some place called classic video games um fire and ready I have no idea how loud this is going to be guys get ready mindscape was the company that ported

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     the uh original reported it to the Super Nintendo it's all just a stage play the Vega sector has fallen world after world is freed as the Kathy Empire fleas the Confederation Fleet in a dead Run for the safety of their home Worlds the Imperial forces abandon all of their enslaved planets but one Warhammer 12 not on the map of the

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     Vegas weapons development planet of the Kathy Empire it is done my Admiral the Graton weapon completed somebody hey now the tide will turn actually don't know which one's talking now shall the garded colony be the first test site you really could be either of you're standing on the first test site Commander we can we switch Kath a world under our control the emperor will not allow it leave that to me we must remove all evidence of our work here how better than the weapon we have

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     developed with the weapon we have developed why is it so windy in there think of it they haven't fixed the skylights a small explosion and then for a few few moments the total gravitational field of the planet increases 137 fold nothing will remain except the street sight every see word by let them come let them come they will find nothing here but at got it we will provide a welcome they shall not soon forget oh they actually actually had laughter

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     in the air I can appreciate capes um interesting thing about Super Nintendo version and we'll we'll talk about what that means later uh you could pick a skill level between Ace and rookie um I'm let this video continue to play a little bit I want to show you a couple other Oddities uh in the port that are exciting to possibly just me I think there is a there was an alternative joke in right mindscape put in yes if you you had to plug in a second controller and there was a joke version of that uh will you jump ahead a little bit uh to the takeoff scene I want to show you the takeoff scene in this oh he looks better way more cracky less colors than Super Nintendo another thing they did on the Super

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     Nintendo version is they took advantage of the cool mode 7 Graphics to have a different takeoff scene watch watch this little odity this is kind of thing that just fascinates me by these games you uh there's all these little differences in the ports like what is that looks like Star Fox it's not gameplay it's just a cut scene but they redid the takeoff for whatever reason um that's that all right and with that let's uh go back to the Vega sector back Vegas hold on I gotta go back to the Vegas there we go yes somebody mentioned that if one of the comments was if you live in a Chris Roberts Universe don't buy a house in

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     Vega all right we should be back up and running let's talk to these folks hello shot glass hey Maverick glad you made it back in you might want to talk to Paladin at night I can be night I think they're both a little on the edge let me know if you he anything else about Gard okay for all of them yes who's who's palad I'll try palad I'll be night sit yourself down ly and have a drink there's a question that's been troubling me the cats were shown n Mercy to our people but if we win this war what do we do them what do we do to them what do you mean

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     James genocide lad if we didn't destroy them completely this war may never end and if we do kill them all how are we different from them if we lose this War I didn't care what happens cuz I don't want to be alive to see it but what if we win just a nice casual conversation about maybe we should commit genocide let me tell you some of my own dark thoughts kid a dark guy all right I'm going to walk into your office one day and say that I've been watching maniac he says he's been having nightmares and I've seen his hand shaking every time he climbs into the cockpit

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     I think Todd's losing it he's always been on the edge but this looks real bad I'd keep a close eye on him if he was my wingman otherwise that crazy laugh of his might be the last thing you hear maybe tell somebody who matters night no I just realizing I don't think I was doing a Scottish or an Irish accent so much as I was doing Sheamus McFly from Back to the Future 3 I'm pretty sure go go back and watch the tape I'm pretty sure I was doing Sheamus spook fly from Back to the Future 3 there Mission briefing heading into kathi space actually I got at the moment we're cruising deeper into kill wrathy space and we just received a coded tightbeam message from my command I said Mage they're sending a convoy to rendevu

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     with us but these ships will appear back at the border right where we had our last scrap with the fur balls so I'm sending Wings to retrieve it you return to that jump Point destroying any kill rathy that you encounter at designated jump points you'll rondu with the what slep slip near Colony damond Class Sports carrying a company of Marines each transport is not a long word as some of you may know the Sleep near sleep sounds like a tapir the tapir a can call it to the tapir tapir Colony we need all the help we can get out here people don't screw it

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     up each Wing will escort the Convoy to a jump point and kill wrathy territory after the reavers jump then return to Tiger's claw if we're lucky this Mission will bring us an additional benefit the Kathy might think that this is the only extensive border attack and not realize that we're heading deep into their space all right individual Wing assignments he gives the orders for each wiek then ABS long Wing is Maverick an angel you'll fly a straight course to the ru point if you're if you're jumped by any

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     kathi don't hesitate to destroy them gee golly thanks runu with your convoy with your convoy and nav one escort them back to nav 2 just this side of the Hot Zone that map when they jump clear break off and return home the reavers have their own orders they're on a secret mission as well to the title yes any you can work the title of the thing into the thing if there's a successful we'll Rond theoo with them later dismissed why must we keep fighting these Star Wars realizing that laughing is literally the worst possible thing that I can be doing it hurts so much my laugh so I'm going to war you guys right now this mission is a little bugged um

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     you can do this Mission perfectly and one of the transports will just explode or crash into the other one or disappear um that sounds like a Draymond the game was not in tended to have two dren in the same instance well there's the Minefield they can hit mines going back slept near eight-legged horse of Odin the god slept frankly you're a righted horse of Odin the god uh this this transport Convoy does not live up to the name it really really doesn't Hi Alexis Alexa is in chat is it really Alexis yep it says the real Alexis lesing thank you for the

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     sandwiches yes Ben says thank you for the sandwich Alexis sandwiches or sandwich sandwiches I sandwiches oh you don't want it though it's uh no it's a low carb sandwich which is sadly a thing that exists you can get Red Robin Burgers wrapped in lettuce yeah I love the Royal Red Robin burger I love that with the fried day on there I haven't had a Royal Red Robin burger in maybe a year or two yeah I do that lettu using more you get to have more fries even if you're not trying to watch out for carbs we uh we scraped all the cheese off of pizzas yesterday oh oh look there was a

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     bug that chip just disappeared my dark this buggy Mission hopefully we can save reavers because we have to I don't understand how you can do that if I if I had a pizza in my presence on the diet I would eat it that's why I don't ever have pizza is no I I need at least the essence of pizza is cheese a carb no cheese is great no cheese is is one of the things you're supposed to eat it's one of the best things you can eat on a low carb diet because on a low carb diet you have to actually increase your fat intake in order to it's it's it's how you trigger ketosis and tell your body to burn the fat for energy instead of carbs so if you if you cut fat out with carbs you don't lose any weight so you actually have to keep your fat intake up to lose weight when you're doing a low carb

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     thing I just I don't have I don't have the ability to deny myself anything it it it has to just it has to not be in the room if it's in the room I eat it for land is correct I did the Ain diet a couple years ago lost about 105 lb about 105 well I stopped I stopped measuring after after 7 after like 85 that's right they by the way did you guys see me plow through two joli just then that was impr pry cool you're on you're on great I just one of the transports and plowed into a transport but that happen you hit autopilot when you did oh look one of the transports

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     follow me the other one didn't all right good job Draymond we have do we have anything called Draymond Star Citizen we don't we should have something really stupid called Draymond we don't have a dor here yet dor here is pretty spec yeah I don't know if we we get away with name of something dork here I I feel like we should we could have a terrible terrible transport that just explodes you know it has a systemic defect they do use Draymond over and over in Wing Commander um there's a different Draymond in Privateer there was going to be a different Draymond in priver online uh you can find the art of that at WC news.com um of course they redesign it for super week grer but I agree with you there should be like a name that's synonymous with a God I hate this transport type

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     ship it's a hall so I do think we've lost a Draymond maybe the game will detect that it's fine it it wasn't destroyed it just disappeared um wait you did I miss it earlier you saw it just vanish uh it didn't come with us into autopilot it was just it just pieced out was like I'm fine here guys dond going where hell no I'm not going there okay well uh we'll know as soon as we get the briefing music won't we I think you may be able to continue with just one save uh but I may be wrong gra are actually a bit more more

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     of a threat to the uh to everything well the Raptor oh and I just ran that one you killed him though yeah yep you traded all of your port side armor for that kill I'd call that I'd call that a win see that's exactly what I was trying not to do this is one of those things the game punishes with you theoretically if I say I finish successfully finished that escort mission that painful painful escort Mission and then they throw me two graa on the way home just to uh mess with me right look at that cool look at the take uh static screen so secret missions one um it doesn't

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     show up a lot in later wi Commander continuity but it's it is kind of a background thing it establishes some things like U Maniac going crazy um it was also the basis for the original pitch for wi Commander Academy the TV show glad to see you back both of you it's also where the phas transit Cannon comes from it is listen quite a few Fighters were damaged in this last mission you're done goofed so don't be surprised if you find yourself flying a scimitar on short notice let's review the mission did you just throw the citar under the bus he ha the citar you're report Maverick we headed out to beat the reaper Cowboy at the round ofo point it was quite a fight mon cor I lost one of the transports I'm

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     sorry sir I did my best but at least the other transports arrived sell it Blair sell it a lot of good soldiers died today because of you first lieutenant guil trip later I've had some time to calm down we'll discuss this further for the record Maverick you killed four Angel why' you bother and I'll need to see you in my office immediately that's all dismissed honan's a jerk in this one I like him way

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     more Blair come in I need to speak with you is he still going to promote him we're having to change some pilot assignments effective immediately you'll be reassigned you'll be in a citar class medium fighter with Blue Devil Squadron I'm curious sir why because you suck you got four last mission come on we've lost Pilots Maverick and a lot of Fighters remember when I blamed you for that just a few moments ago honor about two minutes ago until we have more Fighters repaired and combat ready I'm going to need you

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     to slum it with Blue Devil Squad I had to shift Personnel to keep the maximum number of shifts active ships I understand sir I'll do my best I can no matter what ship I'm assign Good Pilot glad to hear it that's all first Lieutenant dismissed spirit Spirit is that is that Hunter's seat empty seat that's Hunter's empty seat yeah well do you have maveri I'll sit with your regular skot says the fur bags have a tearing ship with

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     them I know the Kathy never take hostage but maybe just this time now who am I kidding they don't take prisoners ever my cousin Zach and his lady are dead as anyone and got it and if the cats do have a capture Confederation ship you can be sure it's filled with cat food or something not prisoners actually those are the same things oh that that's terrible said here she could read Spirit now mavan she's Japanese I was listening to the newscast morning for some

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     reason it appears that there was a Kathy attack on Epsilon station I want to read her like an old Native American Chief myON is stationed there he is an officer in the medore I rarely speak of him it is better to concentrate on our work here for now we must maintain our communication silence so I cannot find out what has happened but soon we will return to Teran space and I will know hope her fiance is okay uh yes to the person who asked this is this is a shirt with ET with an afro it's

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     bet oh and this is a new series we could give I'm laughing let's give out a uh a Vanguard uh the base Vanguard uh to go with the Raptor we were flying all right we're going to start a giveaway for we're going to give away a whole lot of ships we keep doing that two hours into this thing seven as long as there's seven Series so seven chips all right the boss man says giving away a Vanguard let's start the raffle for a Vanguard uh Warden right Warden y Vanguard warden so we are opening the raffle now so you end the raffle with the exclamation point raffle please just do it once be kind to your fellow twitch twitchers twit Twitches twitchers

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     entering more than one does nothing more than make me want to find your name in the list and pull it out manually cuz I'm like Colonel hous on so we'll leave this up throughout the next mission guys so plenty of time don't worry if you're out making a sandwich we're now in with code named the midguard system every everything in this is nor mythology all the all the content code names SLI near quality midgard system the whole mission is called operation Thor's hammer wiar well that's Welsh I wouldn't know it sounds like gavar is but the the random captured ship from years earlier probably shouldn't be in the same theme as the C Co good so mid midgard is a weird one that um that's the place where the arena

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     cap ship battle happens yes yes good morning there have been some recent crew reassignments and I'd like to welcome all Pilots new to the Blue Devil Squadron I hope you like flying the ciares if you don't and we have some real trouble the kathi captured a confederation ship at Gard the fall staff a Draymond class Courier transport which is carrying information that is vital to our operations against the kathi weapons design specs troop movements tactical maps that data could our mission the cats are familiar with some of our security measures such as our rigging the data Bank couriers to blow and tampered with odds are good that they're taking it back to their Command Center so that their own text can crack it without

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     destroying the ship all right today's mission is to destroy that transport now we will be tipping our hand we I do I got lost that's why we'll use a very small task force with luck we'll be in and out before they realize they've been hit two wings of Blue Devils will be performing the entire Mission here are the individual Wing assignments I don't know why the will was all in capitals it thre me Maverick you and boss man are delta wing Maverick is Wing leader boss man Commander asss other Wings they read Delta's Mission head for nav one and Destroy any kill rathy patrols you encounter once you reach nav one your primary objective is to destroy the fal staff afterwards head for nav 2 we've detected a Rari Cruiser

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     there eliminated and keep your eyes open for fighter patrols and escort ships Maverick because the killery will lose every ship they have to Def I went too fast once we start this they'll know we're here this is our one chance for surprise good luck Pilots dismissed by the way go go kill the ship and you know blow up a destroyer on your way home when I first played R Commander back in 1990 1991 I didn't know about afterburners I didn't know you could have this was the mission I couldn't get through without it I got here and I I've probably played this Mission 100 times I I could destroy the Draymond sometimes but I could not could not get home beat kurasawa 2 without after

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     brunners I beat Kurosawa 2 without after bur well you know I don't know I may have uh I may have gone the Ross Stop Route originally oh yeah salty versus or doy versus I think this is the first time that we uh we have fewer guns than the kathi do that's okay the Jal is a terrible ship it's just very dangerous to transports very dangerous you go first so what's going on with the armor I've always wondered why this one doesn't have a Ford and half armor indicator no it has armor it was just another way to make the

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     ship well everybody hates the Scimitar there it goes that's no I mean in the game everybody is so scared of the jelty cuz it's got six guns in ships do um it's a lot it's a lot of lasers they they just figure it's like oh it's it's got more guns and everything else of course it's going to win this doesn't remind me of any conversations I've had in the last three years at all all right let's try that again bling that on the JY not the citar well I I feel like I could have taken one of those hits in the Raptor yeah it's when the when the jolty just

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     kind of seems like it's hanging in space that's when you got to jump on it cuz when it starts you can get even though it's a heavy fighter it can get some momentum behind it it's hard to chase it boss man is also shooting me the back right now luckily his guns aren't as good as J damage they can take yeah it's not just the guns it is a tough ship the mass drivers hit hard too yay much better the easiest part of the mission is done all right what do we have here is that your fall staff it's the

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     fall staff I I believe it jumps out doesn't it yeah it's a yeah you're better off just dashing straight in for it yeah it's okay it's a Draymond it won't last long why is your target taunting you okay R's destroyed let's mix it up with some cramp you C to be serious here we go again again yeah there goes my side armor

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     like how the S cockpit is like a complete version of the cockpit we're using for the stream o you're down to one gun that's probably going to help me a bit there's no way to know but I have to think you probably have no forward armor yeah for sure probably not oh uhoh uh-oh this is going to make things a little harder yes it is yeah

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     this this does not help us stand up for the honor of the Scimitar no this is not going well we're almost s there's a real water we have for this probably just oh I'm sure Maniac will figure something out is Maniac your wingman no no no but he would he would uh find some way to destroy it I I think I think you can make it without if you can make it back to the clock and you can keep going no we got a destroyer to take out after that I know is that part of the mission I don't think it's it's a wedding requirement Chris is checking out the uh wi Commander um encyclopedia for all of the mission details so we'll find out what we can get away with I think I

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     think you can get away well Ben is just trying to Ram the CR so when when I not trying to Ram them there we go a that was a purpose did the did the do we have the life sign meters before that was there before are those new for no they before they light up once you uh have a safe there if nobody's sleeping didn't remember them on Wi on I thought maybe they new for secret mission all these little details no pretty much everything is the same cuz the same executable build the same time secet missions to will add some stuff like we could look at the uh the uh boob lady portrait stuff cuz they they actually rebuild the

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     game some enhancements nothing like I'm you up 640 by 480 you can look at the boob lady because they made some enhancements true what the hell secret secret missions 2 has a frame rate limiter so you can play a little easier don't press St to respect that that's not worth respect I'm going to do this yeah we can't give away the ship unless you beat the mission yeah yeah we're going have a lot of entr ship captive audience I I appreciate their mission designers at this point though kind of experimenting with their tools you know there are no missions in the L matter where you have to blow up a dra there's a good mix of narrative and

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     uh narrative and uh would it help if you went to the um really thought going say would help I got out and pushed really thought that's what you were were doing there cuz in win Commander one you can change up your nav Point um sequence and sometimes that helps but I think also they're on to that and sometimes if you go through the what looks like the easy way like it'll pop an extra froy in there for you the easy way easy way I heard about that almost never found that's a Back to the Future to reference I've never forgotten that reference just the way they say it makes stick easy

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     way the one place where Ben and I are like ET and Elli at are pop culture references he usually drops something that also making each other buy things yeah we're really good at making each other buy things that a jolty it is a jolty old six shooters JY with a j or with a d

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     okay question what joystick is Ben using well Ben is using the thrustmaster warthog y it's pretty good it's a fantastic stick there it there it is that that's his Burger pan right there okay back at the fall staff let's take it out first cuz it's going to jump by the way 3,000 m is the range for these Guns R and then I hit the transport that was one thing that almost seemed to happen a lot it was a Sprite engine so uh collisions sometimes tended to pop right in out of the blue right in

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     your face when you think you were clear yeah I will say this for that warthog you know no Shilling aside recognizing that we have a competing product coming out soon but you don't really appreciate it until you touch it goodness I got again once you grab the warhog that joystick you you're like wao that first time it's it's impressive very very heavy how did you get it to work with wien Commander I'll take a it was Plug and Play I plugged the joystick in Destro so I think it's I think the support is just built into the Gog version of the game yeah got go is set up a Dos box set up so do a USB joystick will work f with me better last time we

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     tried to use a uh the Black Mamba black mamba uh which did not work very well uh I think more because it's just so precise yeah it was way sensitive we we turned it we turned the sensitivity all the way down and it was just it's a little too it's a little too much joystick props to Black Mamba so I think you mentioned it in the last live stream but the Jes are they they they get changed up quite a bit in um on the Super Nintendo they just become green salties yeah and then where that plays in uh with the secret missions is they put a green salty also known as a dry on the on the box again doubling down on

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     one of these different they put a they put a poster an amazing amazing poster of this green jolty salty in the Box really boss man I mean I understand how hard this is is there any way to recall them once they Bail no not as far as I know yeah help they're shooting me to Pieces oh help I'm being oppressed I hear that one a lot I don't watch long

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     thing me either we should watch that we should watch it I still want to do I still want to do the Zucker marathon with toast yeah want toied movie Airplane top secret cuz you've seen airplane but you haven't seen te movie and you haven't seen top secret so that's a that's a good Trilogy you guys want a good way to spend a an afternoon Kentucky Fried Movie into airplane into top secret you can thr Naked Gun on there if you want but uh those three airplane is awesome I heard they just they they made a third Human Centipede movie H I don't I don't even oh get your speed back up you manag to hit the transport justest before it blew up I still uh about once every two weeks

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     I open the door to the writer's room I just want to tell you both good luck we're all counting on you I do that I do that I've done that about once every two weeks ever since I started working here back in March and in the new office there's now three of them in there so it's like I have to alter the line it's less fun if I have to alter it it was better when it was just uh padic and W meanwhile I pretend all of our sliding doors are voice activated stream is down

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     what check it yeah your laptop's right there you just have it on your laptop right there can you pause the game that's it you have a pause uh let me finish this battle button yeah CU we're we're still recording so people are reporting that the stream

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     down so we'll get this back up as soon as this mission is over in the meantime I think we're still recording locally so this part will live on in posterity yeah it would be it would be shame if people didn't get to see me lose this Mission times cheapers Crums lost the gun again so I'm going to eject okay hold over why is the ejection why hasn't it killed me

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     what you don't know is the other enemy ship has no guns no we go same Mission he's ejecting killing himself i' I've lost all my guns I I problem is here's this uh yeah didn't know what that was cuz we're still we were still broadcasting here it wasn't showing job frames we still doing our local recording so I don't know know why twitch dropped us but we're ending the mission we'll start it over again we came so close that time if I got to the app point with a gun I'm confident I could haveh no still the same raffle guys we can't draw until he beats midgard

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     one I'm just not nice enough it really is a much harder game in yeah well so much harder secret I still love the ship though probably because this Mission wouldn't be that hard in a raptor well you wouldn't lose be losing your guns that's one of the problems is you know a couple you have twice as many guns to go through before that happens although I've never liked Neutron guns not in this game anyway there's just not much to recommend them yeah they don't do as much damage as you think they do damage per unit power is nothing special and on top of that it has low rate of fire and boss it's just it's just that that you hit real hard when you hit with those four Raptor guns

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     though it has good impulse but Mass drivers are almost the same mass drivers are pretty NE Mass drivers are probably all around best weapon in this game I think if I cut have four of those I'd be happy wouldn't need anything else yeah you get you get three of them on a couple of win Commander two bombs chat is pretty crossbow not get shot all right well and the mor feret moress proves that a pair of mass is mass shot less you will be more successful yeah the problem is you get hit you get we got our some backseat violence here cely on we're going to do this like we're going to do this you know let me know if you need a break all right I think the matter of

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     Honor I hav't finish this Vision myself maybe you can Ry the next one yeah you got it you got it you got this at least there's no Endeavor at stake this time right that's thing you know Ben's a Ben Ben's the big game player you know when when when the higher the stakes are on the line that's when he rises in the challenge this this is like he's like H see yeah while we're hanging out in midgard there's uh comes up a few more times still the same raffle guys if you've already entered you do not need to enter more than once for every like 50 Raffles I see one person added

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     because people are doing it more than once I think they mention midguard and Privateer Special Operations different midgard system in privateer mhm um it's one of the systems in the Gemini sector also like like this was the migar was the code name for the sector here because they didn't know the kathi name for it I got some wingk man knowledge and Border zone is a funny one cuz they say border border zone is like it's not a border Zone it's border zone system on the map yeah the people doing the the later per B very L I pulled away before that that was I can do this I can do

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     this what land do it look like with my hair you you want to play any games Chris Reed I I can I'm certainly up to as a relief pilot but I'm afraid I'm afraid of uh that will do here I don't expect that either of us will do better than them just just a break also I'm a I'm a keyboard wi Commander one player keyboard so we'll see how that goes yeah now I'm not raving off the Lando doll Lando doll is limited edition they don't make them anymore 25 100 I think where the Disco land it all that I

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     use there's nothing to see somebody said actually Ravel the doll off I said no no that's that's Lander it may be included in one of the new sets we're building maybe but also that's not a prise anyone really I care Wars I appreciate that was a Star Wars reference but I was too trying to get a this is Ben's waterl I think Ben's waterl is still to come and Wier too this is too early to be a water loop when do we see those L

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     classers very rarely uh I mean the gy yeah cor yeah they show up wi Comm there's some good cutcenes Special Operations cut scenes where you get beautiful landscape views of you see the cut scene version of it not not necessarily the yeah yeah like I said the TCS gbur the immunity ship in Special Operations my question is why this time has boss man decided that he won't attack without mys well that was quick jeez silver

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     balls silver balls ow was attacking him but he was complaining know right I I thought the same thing despite all the damage i s doing Sandy is unpacking s is actually working cuz she's the boss that missile has been going seeking ages oh I finally landed he going to chase that J did you get that JY F man help maybe Sandy can finish the Miss oh boss

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     man is going to get a promotion yay what was that what hit me I looked away for like a second there was nothing well I know to toast was offering to sit in if you want to going try one more time then we'll let toast

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     give it a shot toast give me a minute you're up Ben when was the last time you played

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     this game uh two months ago Live Well secret mission specifically oh uh year or so ago oh this is looking promising going need Play N no we've got it did you did you play through EA replay secet missions yes that that would be very hard well if you do it a rookie it's actually very easy uh yes if if you ever want to experience this game but very very easy the rookie play setting on the uh Super Nintendo version and therefore the uh PlayStation version is uh one shot to kill every enemy yeah you can buy that in uh the

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     European PlayStation Network store right for they're about to stop selling PSP games online do it now if yeah do do it now if you want uh otherwise you need a PlayStation Portable and a little mini [Applause] disc because I never owned the computer and I only had limited time to play in my friend's house I never actually learned how to fly I I just used the uh the keyboard shortcut that that let you instag anybody you had targeted so there Target Instagram Target Instagram Target I just so I could play the story over and over again because I had a limited out of limited access to win command 3

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     four I think that's very common I never learn I never learned to be a good pilot some games like Privateer you you had to play through privateer or else you wouldn't earn your money the cheat like it had built-in cheats but like they would let you get yourself back to base but if you wanted to win your win your missions private here yeah though options menu and vulnerability ah like that kind of stuff never played Private tier oh private tier that's a amazing one a live stream to get your ship all down take yeah that seems like a game little too long to live stream private TI is very long yeah even the storyline yeah I

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     me you just have to like Travers never mind that you could play the game forever if you didn't follow the story line but there are just so many series of missions yeah yeah I love Privateer the only thing I didn't like so much about Privateer was the projectile speed it was weird it got to the point where I got used to Leading a Target three screens off yeah I think I just always had such a slow computer you know you just kind of you just kind of been a steering around I mean considering how cheap missiles are in private tier um the missiles are great yeah you load up you get 20 of them you get double launchers on some of the ships just go boom boom yeah just do not take too many missions

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     at once you can get through it even if you're allowed giving you Victory music when still people trying to kill you I got to kill that every Victory counts well I don't know man how do you get through a work day Ben yes no was answering toast okay you have your brilliant patch no I would lost yes we're still on the same Mission

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     but he's doing very much better this time I'm not doing that yeah it's interesting this is the mission the track that uh screwed me up my first play through all those years ago here it is again it knows you haven't forgotten yet it hasn't forgotten you either okay we're further than we've been before we just have to blow up an enemy Destroyer now that's okay there well it's never the Destroyer right it's the escorts

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     yeah what is the destroyer's cap on this I think it's salie you all right stop complaining boss man Lesnik Lesnik he's our man if he can do it we get a ship you get the ship anyway I promise we'll give away the ship no matter what happens no pressure but special guest arriv oh hey man you really should negative cannot

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     comply oh he is tripping in yeah and he's got both his guns and his Shields are good this this might be it see myself ramming into that Rari well this is this is it right please don't Ram the Rari oh oh de Rari okay big S relief please tell me there's not an as field or M field the

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     Tiger Claw is not under attack for graa please please let that be it yay okay and now I after into the clock all these things have happened to be I'm kind of nervous that you're kind of coming into an angle all right we're closing the raffle guys yes the ti CLW is under attack and an Nas feel covered in mind sure that happen somewhere looks like it got a little hot

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     out there sir I make it look easy right sh really Mr your debriefing welcome back Bruce Lieutenant good flying boss man like he was asking not bad sir tell me what happened yes sir we launched and started for that word where we engage the enemy and destroy the Dr what you doing with his eyes there and we met with a Rari now too it was tough but she's history colonel was tough was tough from the flight recorder

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     I see that you took out 10 kill Wy ships Maverick feels like more boss man didn't stop any of the ships it feels like more because more over good work first lieutenant your success have dismissed all right Raffles closed guys drawing it now the winner of a Vanguard Warden is make sure you safe ramar ramar well congratulations you won a Vanguard Warden ramar uh if please send a private message to the cig Community Twitch account uh with the email account that's associated with your Star Citizen account and will attribute your Vanguard Warden later on next week if for any reason you don't have a Star Citizen account you can go to robertsspaceindustries.com register your account and then private

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     message us that email address and we'll do it just like we did it before thanks Remar and pick up a game package please if you yeah also in this hypothetical situation why aren't you backing Star Citizen well I don't think this hypothetical situation is ever happens all right let's talk to shot glass hello Maverick drinks are around the house today you got a haircut I did got a sporty haircut I did I don't really have anything much to celebrate you see I was holding on to the Fright hope that my cousin Zach had made it that somehow he was alive hiding out in that Draymond I knew it wasn't true but I couldn't stop thinking about it it was making me crazy but now I know

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     the truth he wasn't the shipping it's all over Zach is dead it's also how say brother Bell did as dead as everyone else on G so the drinks are on me it's a weird thing to till we're too drunk to think you're a bad military bartender hello look Hennessy's here hello hey and Chris Roberts also I was probably more exciting yeah I was being real specific about not mentioning Chris was behind us I want well I'm blind on [Laughter] side join us we're uh playing a very hard game secret missions W Miss 25th anniversary yesterday there you go it's significantly harder than the

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     first one considerably yeah this imitar didn't help yes do you have a minute you want to take some questions uh sure try your hand not particularly that didn't do that time well you should have seen what just happened to me he was he was stuck he was stuck for a while all right guys so we're joined Right Now by Chris Roberts um Chris what do you do for a living uh I make games sometimes so if you have any questions we'll we'll we'll take some questions for Chris Roberts here for a while uh please preface your question with the word question in Brackets helps us pull it out from all other uh detritus in chat of course we're 30 seconds ahead so

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     it'll take a little while for it to catch up D we just get we just uh raffled off a Vanguard we want to oh cool yeah Ben had to beat the mission or or we didn't give it away all right right will the V fly by by yes it will be fly will be years that's the answer Pepsi or Coke Coke but I don't drink either anymore what do you have against the Vega system nothing they just not not noting earlier that if you live in a Chris Vega don't buy a house in Vega yeah it just happens to be one of the closest systems and I think we sort of fictionally put um you know sort of a lot of what was happening in Wing

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     Commander there and then of course we had to do the same for uh Squadron 42 makes easy to remember excitement is yeah um have you played 2.0 on PTU uh yes I played it uh I was playing it the other week that's I I even tweet I never tweet and I even tweeted about it I saw that I saw me me and Tony zurc and Sean Tracy were all playing on the the patch that we put out on Wednesday and so we got on for a couple hours and around it was actually I my I mine was so I played there was no crashes on mine at all uh for well over an hour and and then we had to go cuz I was going to go with my brother to have a early Thanksgiving dinner with my parents uh and then um Sean Tracy got on it two minutes later crashed that's sh TR Bri so I think if

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     it crashes it's really just to do with the person not anything so it's happening to you you're a bad person yes yes all crashes are specific to you and don't happen to anybody else yeah no we don't do that on this game anyway uh we take ownership for our own bugs all right somebody asked what the chances of get of seeing an NPC named Maniac in the game are uh well you never know I mean we never know about some other people that may be uh you know longer term uh in the universe we got lots of stuff that we're going to do down the road so well W just be Mark and uh and John re Davis what's it like to create Wing commander and then a couple years later to be creating star citiz any major

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     differences in the experience uh well it's a little more than a couple years later that's thing yeah so uh you know what I we talking 25th anniversary here um so no I mean it's it's it's a it's awesome to come back to uh building a universe in a world but with like a lot more resources and a lot more technology to able to do it so you know one of the reasons why I also like movies is just I like World building and I like really detailing the world out uh but I actually feel now with what what we're doing with Star Citizen I I can do it better than you can do on any film so you know we can build out every knock and cranny of the world and you know ultimately people will get to Adventure around and and experience and feel like they live there and that's awesome so so yeah I'm having a I'm having a blast for stares and plus you have us this time so must we have you it makes it much

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     better uh why are we still looking at the bar because we're talking to Chris Roberts Oh you mean why didn't I switch to the cameras I was to well because I was talking to there you go so do you remember how secret which camera this one that one oh that one a see It's Tricky there's like two cameras who knew I'll move this over there there you go oh there you go much easier uh what tech are you most excited about for Star Citizen uh I know you want to tell them right now but let's wait for the live oh yeah yeah wait till the live stream how about that there you go what tech besides that are you most excited excited about I really like the own system well yeah no well I just but essentially fleshing out the star systems with the detail like you know everything being seamless The Landing

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     areas uh I guess Thomas is building the sex um but no I mean just just I mean yeah you can already taste it in 2.0 where you can get in walk around the space station get in the ship fly somewhere get out get in a combat Eva get your blown up ask for someone to come rescue get in the ship get away and we don't we have we have a very small amount of like the gameplay and systems that are actually in 2.0 you can already do lots of stuff already feels completely different than any I mean it's hard I was you know you downloaded uh Star Wars Battlefront and I played it for a few hours and I was bored cuz all I could do was run around and shoot people and it was a bit arcadey and I sort of wanted to be able to go and do more and go to more places and so I actually think 2.0 is sort of like a really great Ground Zero cuz it's it it

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     sort of gives you the idea of what the possibility of being able to sort of go seamlessly between all those you know kind of game styles that used to be separate games but they're not uh and just imagine that with the detail we're doing as you add more locations to visit and you know you know I mean we don't even have the uh space stations with NPCs on right now so imagine NPCs having conversations with them you know telling you if they heard a derel out in this asteroid field that You' got to go search for I mean there's you know it's it's the stuff that Dreams made out it's pretty cool it was I saw a video the other day someone was taking someone had gotten one of those big Benny's vending machines into their into their 300 we're taking it around the no it's amazing that's I love the videos it's like that's actually one of the reasons why

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     we didn't want to put too many rules in place at the beginning is just get it out there and just see what people do and then you know that kind of helps inform sort of the things will probably like work on first or you know okay well this is kind of not fun because people are doing too much griefing this or we'll try to fix that or oh let's give them some gameplay that's more along these lines cuz people are doing that so yeah I was pretty impressed that they you know there was various containers and crates that I saw shoved up into Avengers and flown away it was pretty good chances of Jared boting a wingman with a callide red one if Jared wants to do it we can do it we have lot we have lots of uh NPC characters in both Squadron 42 and will be in St CZ will there be a spiritual equivalent of the great state of Texas and Star Citizen uh I don't know I mean we got

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     we're going to have Earth but I don't think you're going to be you know we won't have enough uh detail what are the three there is a new Austin if that's enough there is a new Austin yeah but I don't think we have it as a landing Zone at the moment so where's the where is new Austin anyway you guys Terra is it on Terra do we do we put on Terra Tera yeah maybe that's where we put origin I think that's where we put the headquarters of origin yeah I trust toast he knows those things yeah where's David hadock when you need no I think I think we actually put the headquarters of origin and new Austin for the reference to origin systems obviously I guess Prime is here right was Wing Commander considered high fidelity for its time uh yes I hope so this blew away everything at the time I mean all the the little touches the the concete exploding instead of actually having

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     like a damaged meter or the hand moving on it it was this was not like anything anybody had seen at the time Chris did you enjoy your time at the game awards with Mark Hamill uh yeah it was fun I Mark's great so you know I mean he actually we Mark and uh uh we actually lived quite close to each other so we rode in the same car up there and rode in the same car back so but he lost again so it was very upsetting uh for poor mark because uh he's been nominated quite a few times at the uh well I guess it wasn't the game awards before it was a v VGA for for the Joker and um you know he he says every time he goes never wins and when he doesn't go like he's got a bafter for playing The Joker um that's when he didn't go to the bik he's like I'm not going to win I'm not going so he wins so it's going to be hard to get him to go next time I told him that

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     Squadron 42 uh hopefully we'll be up there so we'll see yeah uh looking for Wing Commander questions it's a win Commander live stream and all um did you see anything at the game awards that pequ your interest uh not not really the the uh the Far Cry Primal was a bit interesting mainly because it's uh you know essentially that's a version of cry engine cuz it was uh the Far Cry then became crisis and stuff like that and then Ubisoft took the engine and did their own development of it but you can sort of see similarities and some of the stuff but uh you know that kind of looked interesting I you know to be

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     honest with you the the game awards were I don't know it yeah it it didn't they felt like they were more um like they had the No Man's Sky trailer last year was it last year yeah it was last year I it was two years ago it was two years ago anyway whatever when whenever they that that they seem to have some more interesting new reveals I didn't there wasn't there didn't seem like to be uh you know a lot of like new things you saw I mean you had um Tim schaer announce um doing Psychonauts too which was cool um but you know in terms of like new things to show I I think maybe the most interesting one was the the Far Cry Primal just cuz it was kind of different uh is there any chance we could see Star Wars early because you're such good carpool friends with Mark no I can't we can't I I can't actually Mark's very Mark's very good at uh uh keeping

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     it is it we got there's actually quite a lot of people that have work on Star Citizen and Squadron 42 that have all there are in Stars Star Wars 7 and working on Star Wars 7 so like quite a few of the people designing all our ships of Designing ships for Star Wars uh and obviously we have quite a few actors that are also in Star Wars um and Imaginarium did all the Motion Performance capture for Star Wars so so yes uh you know exstensively we should have more background information uh but I wouldn't be the right person to ask really it's Hannis uh you know he's our director of cinematics and you know he's he he's the he's the biggest star Wars uh maybe even including Jared the biggest Star Wars Fanboy uh no he knows every like if you ask him what's

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     happening in Star Wars 7 he's already like you know whatever whatever rumor um leak he's he he he's got it is Hennis a bigger fan of Star Wars or Jillian Anderson uh I would say it's pretty close but maybe Star Wars W so yeah go Tales of his fandom have made it all the way over here yeah yeah I know he's hnis is yeah was very ner the day before the day before Mark was shooting he was uh he had to make sure that all our little previs was perfect for Mark and it was all great and then we all went out to dinner towards the end of the shoot and you know Hannis came along and that was probably one of Hannis with Mark so that was kind of one of H's it was good there was a question about Wing Commander driving upgrades of video cards you see Star Citizen doing that uh yeah no no I

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     I I mean I think I me I think so I see that in the chat like PCS and uh so I mean yeah we uh we have a deal like we have a deal with AMD um and they wouldn't be doing a deal with us if they didn't think that um Star Citizen was sort of pushing high performance uh stuff but yeah I mean we just want to make you know we we want to push it so I mean we don't want to like sit there and sort of go for the lowest common d l we want to like you know push the what you can do visually to increase the the you know the the world that we're building to to to make it you know more things possible and make it feel uh more immersive uh somebody asked if you could have cast voice actors for Wing commander in 1990 who would you have cast that's a good qu I mean that's that's hard to say you know I'd have to say

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     Mark when he got when he got the chance he did yeah yeah uh yeah I mean I it's uh um yeah it's uh it also depends I mean back then it was sort of harder like I I don't I think now because games are much bigger and they're much more part of like just popular entertainment and uh so they're not like when I was first doing win Commander it was like games were a bit more of a niche and so you know getting like actors to you know be interested of pay attention was very different then than it is now like now it's now you can pretty much like everyone's like oh yeah I'd like to do something like that that's cool that's different that's Cutting Edge and um so yeah I think you know it was much easier casting for instance Squadron 42 than say back in the day doing sort of the wing

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     commanders um yeah if you want to hear voices in week better one the Sega CD Port has a full voice cast but they are not what you would call Professional actors today are they as good as us well we had the the speech pack was you know it was a it was a it was basically U you know several origin people you know like Martin Davis playing uh Admiral towin uh but uh you know yeah we we've upgraded since that not not the M didn't do a great job but yeah know that wasn't his day job what what I have a I have a copy of one of the win Commander books that had signed by Malcolm McDow and David Warner I really need Martin David do that the complete the the trifactor of uh of towood uh the question was what aspect of wing Commander would you most like

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     see like to see updated for for Star syon what aspect what do we mean by what the question yeah I mean I I'm looking for question I mean but well but B I mean just to just say Squadron 42 essentially outside of sort of the setting and uh the narrative because if I was going to do another Wing Commander I would probably go back and start sort of redo Wing Commander one again just because I the the karafi you know Teran Confederation war is sort of the seminal Wing Commander conflict um so you know it would be like one of those sort of you know reboots um but uh outside of that like all the gameplay mechanics what we're doing how we're doing the conversations uh living on the you know your you know at the beginning it's the

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     Addis and then later on you'll move to another ship um all that the sort of fluid first person uh into your ship flying talking everything not changing not changing game mode not having loading screens that is exactly what I was going to do for another Wing Commander so basically outside of the setting and uh the actual plot line uh game mechanic wise I'm doing everything I wanted to do um with the Next Generation win Commander with Squadron 42 I have a win Commander question go on tast type in TCH if you if you did get to uh you know go back and revisit Wing Commander would it be a continuation of the timeline as you last left it or would it be a reboot well that's what I was saying it was a it would be a reboot I'd do a reboot just because because I would prefer to do uh I just think you know kill Ry versus Teran confederations

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     the the classic so you know it was interesting doing win Commander 4 where we sort of said well what happens after the war and and kind of came up with uh you know basically adal tolwin going off the rails uh but kind Wing Commander one or no it would be it would be Wing Commander one but done you know like big settle down Ben settle down I've heard these pictures over the years uh someone asked what your opinion was on the Nephilim in Wing Commander prophecy it's the bu aliens yeah uh I mean not that is not as bad not as good I just sort of feel like wink Commander was designed for the it was basically defined for the karate human Confederation War and the whole idea was

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     this sort of like huge ongoing like you know almost NeverEnding battle because one of the like the Forever War was one of The Inspirations for when I first started it um and so it was really designed to be a war like basically a war movie as a game and so you know after that's done and we sort of you know you kind of add sort of felt like the DNA works best when it's that you know here's the bad guys here's the good guys it's like it's like you know why World War II movies or games work pretty well right you like the you know the Nazis are bad the alleys are good it's pretty simple um and so uh that for me you know it would be fun to go back and revisit it with you know the kind of detail Fidelity you could do I really like the direction when Commander Ford took I would not have

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     predicted that back in the day I was really pleased with that the the greyness yeah well I was I don't know how old I was 15 I it was I was like wow it impacted me um the win Commander killboard was awesome any plans for something like that in Squadron 42 uh well I think we'll probably I mean we'll probably I mean the the only difference is that um we'll definitely sort of have like um kind of the the the um sort of pilot killboard it's just that uh you know for instance on the well in Squadron 42 you're on a small ship at the beginning so it's not like there's a huge massive Squadron alongside you later on you will be on a bigger ship but um it it is doesn't necessar cuz in the beginning of wing

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     Commander you're aror being shipped from the beginning so I'm not not sure it'll necessarily be relevant um the same way but we'll we'll still have the uh we'll have it in of course as well as the scramble and all the rest stuff what year did win Comm 4 come out 1996 I was way older than 15 I don't know what I was talking about so like L is that young I'm like I don't know how old I am for one minut to the next um like Wing Commander will we have access to a bar in Squadron 42 we already got the head Club I think the minutes are going to be like a bar on the on like well there def there's definitely so so depending on the depending on where you're base there are there there are different areas I mean there isn't necessarily a bar per se so there's like the the mess hall uh where

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     people can go and socialize uh pilot ready room uh and depends on the ship because there's a couple of ships you'll you'll be based on during Squadron 42 so there'll be the same sort of social hubs but you're you're much more free to travel the ship so you're basically when you're on a ship not flying a mission it's like you know you go where you want to go and you know talk to different people you know so you can go down the hanger deck and talk to people on The Hanger you can go to find people off duty in the mes hall or find someone off duty in the shooting range shooting guns talk to them uh you know there's so there's all these different locations you can wander around and sort of interact with the crew I'd love to get ice cream on the aircraft carriers yes I see you trying to cloak your Banu merchantman question in as a wing Commander

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     question I'm not falling for it we did take the term merchantman from the wink matter movie which was the D had the diligent merchantman or erant class Merchant why did the Tiger's claw name change between the game and the movie I asked him that thing recently uh it's for the Ben and Ben for the chairman what do we do for it I can't remember tigers it's Tiger Claw this is the possessive it's Tiger Claw instead of Tiger's claw Ben asked you at the end of that Big Ben for the chairman when you got back I can't I honestly can't remember if there was I couldn't I I'm not sure it's deliberate actually uh I I've been looking back at the earlier drafts because we found a whole bunch of drafts of the script in the first one it's still Tiger's claw and then later on it

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     becomes Tiger Claw so it must have been some post Chris Roberts correction that just got stuck there so is there an eagle talon out there and not eagle yeah I don't I to be honest I don't yeah we we asked this one at the last live stream that we did for this uh but obviously we have many people who didn't watch uh why cats why cats why cats for the kill Ry uh well I think do I always get this question it's like yeah person cats are bad no uh so uh but no no I mean essentially what I wanted to do is I at the time when I was like very first like mulling around command I want to have an alien race that you would fight against and then you know so the defaults are okay there's an insectoid one there's like a reptilian one and so I didn't want uh sort of the

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     kind of you know you know the sort of stuff you'd seen in Starship Troopers or whatever uh and uh I sort of felt like well I wanted and the model was really like World War II in the Pacific and so the kathi you know you know they're based on the Imperial Japanese Navy in Japan okay uh and so the idea is sort of warrior Bido race and so I just sort of felt like you know they're re you know like they're they're Warriors they're graceful they're powerful um and so big cats you know not necessarily you know like you know house cats but you know lions and tigers sort of were very they sort of felt like they kind of would be interesting and so that was kind of what I went with and uh you know and then of course you have like the kazin as well and in the Ring World Series that big cats but actually that wasn't when I was coming up when I was thinking about it I

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     wasn't I didn't even think about that or realize that until after the fact but but you obviously just hates cats obviously you know more people yeah what about the Birdman the Birdman that showed up in secret missions too is that where it was for record yes too yeah well I think wasn't that the Birdman race that you liberated from the of the kti yeah we're just coming up with different different aliens stuff what do you do like we got the Jean you know they're like turtles it's like right you know I mean you know you probably probably probably alien races will be different than what we imagine them to be but then they're not actually you know like in terms of like drawing or rendering them or comprehending them you know if it's some kind of like you know I don't know Interstellar like globular blob it's not that visually interesting so uh easier

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     to render though yeah uh when I played where was it f right when I first played Wing Commander I was maybe five the funeral was very intense and serving for a kid if you die in Squadron 42 will there be a funeral as well uh yes and there's yeah there's some there's some pretty good stuff for your wingman too do you remember how secret missions came about uh oh our secret missions came back yeah well basically when we did win command we had a bunch of extra assets that were uh we couldn't ship because we didn't have enough room on the discs and I had to cut them early in the like to to close down Wing commander and so we uh you know basically we were we were thinking well you know people really like win Commander we're going to do a sequel but that's going to take a bit of time and I was like hey I love um

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     you know all those sort of like campaign packs you get in D and D why can't we just do that for a game and so that was kind of the concept is why don't we just you know put together we've still got a bunch of these assets designed you know whatever it was I 20 missions or something um I don't know was it 20 I can't remember 16 20 and week two the week two expansions so so we we put the you know we just we said okay well we can just build some more of these missions and you know do a little additional Graphics tell a little bit of a story and sort of make a story pack just kind of like you would get you know in the sort of D and D expansion know campaign packs you would get and at the time no one you know on the because getting things into retail is a pain in the ass and all the inventory so like everyone thought oh you know maybe we will sell maybe 10,000 units of them uh and so you know no one thought it was

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     going to be a thing or anything like that uh and we we did it and it you know went incredibly well so it sort of probably was one of the very first you know whether I whether I want to you know whether I want to take credit for DLC now that may not be good because people don't like DLC anymore but uh you know that was it was the precursor to it because I think I think no one else was doing that at the time but the idea was really just to sort of you know we had an engine that worked well and the game style that worked well and to get sort of more uh content in people's hands sooner than we could deliver a full-on game um so people could still be playing in the win Commander Universe while we're working on the next one yeah the time the reaction was the opposite of DLC was oh more Wing Commander for less money that's great but yes well I think now the problem is that people think

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     that the dlc's like held out of the main game just so they can make more money later on um although you know I don't necessarily think you know even with whatever Mega eval Corporation you think's doing I actually think that that's not really necessarily the case for most of the time cuz all these games take a vast amount of money and time to build and then you know having more if you like the world then yeah it's not bad to go back and have more stories in it and obviously on a on a game maker standpoint you want to leverage all that effort you put into building the engine and all the game playay system so you know adding more content's good yeah no I I think it's like it was a tremendous decision at the time and it's born out to we playing through I really like that it's actually more difficult it's not just more of the same it's it's an additional challeng I think the difference was that with like the the the mission after we had win Commander

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     out win Commander was a complete unknown so we've never been out there we didn't know whether people liked it whe you know in some ways we didn't even know whether it was going to necessarily work until the last few months um and so once we had it out we sort of said oh well we can do these extra things with it so we sort of could do a little more storytelling which we did a little with this and then much more with the wi Commander 2 but you could sort of see what worked and didn't work and double down on it so it was kind of cool too I have a question for you something I actually discovered yesterday I was tweeting with gar you were uh we to do a use this Tech to do a Car Wars game after Wing Commander Oh you mean like I was going to use this thing for do a car game yeah we found uh we we found this uh Origins product schedule for 1990 and it was it was Squadron was end of 90 and then end

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     of 91 was Car Wars Chris Roberts us Squad using Squad technology I had I had never heard of that before I wondered how much thought there actually was about that uh well we may have talked about I mean I actually did I do like car wars and I like Mad Max and everything so uh but uh I don't think it got off more than this was back when we were just sort of like okay what you going game you going to do this one and everyone wasn't assuming win Commander was going to be like a a squadron at the time was going to be a big hit um so uh um so yeah may it may have been at one time but we you know when this happened I mean the big thing that I went on to when Wing Commander one wrapped up was building a full 3d engine that was in strike Commander so another one I've always wondered about is um and this actually comes out

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     of thing yesterday we one of the other products in this long-term schedule was a Star Wars RPG that Richard was going to do and publish through Lucas was there ever any talk about licensing this technology for them seems natural no the Star Wars conversations with Lucas was before Wing uh happened so there was back and forth uh conversations because they were you know fans of um the ultimat and stuff um but uh you know it never sort of came to fruition and so then we had we had win Commander uh been several questions about what ships in Wing Commander have influenced what ships in Star Citizen I think the easiest one is the Hornet to the Hornet right well the Hornet although you know the side is is a big

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     one cuz that's basically the you know that's the asymmetrical try um but I would say probably the Hornet uh the sidee I mean we've got Fair number like the saber that you know is that's a wi Commander two ship um Bengal of course right well yeah obviously the Tiger score the Bengal uh so probably probably actually if you think about it the the carrier the Bengal carrier is the biggest one more so than the hornet um but uh yeah I would I would say kind of a long those I mean we've got we've got some we've got some Wing Commander names in there but I would say those would be the the main ones um uh was secret was secret missions 2

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     also leftover assets no secret missions 2 was new stuff that was done so after secret missions one work we're like okay well I guess this works we better be generating some more stuff so we we sort of kind of built some uh some more stuff I mean we did even for secret missions one there's there not all leftover assets so the story stuff all that that's that was all you know so unless it's using the same characters like you know the the captain or um you know a shot class or whatever uh but so we did some new some new art and then also used some existing art for some of the ships that we hadn't used um actually remarking earlier on that you burn off the new ship arts in the first mission you that the two Confederation ships that were left over from wi Commander one are used only in the first mission of secret missions

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     2 um and you were working on win Commander 2 while this was going on right or I'm what's the time what's the timeline here it's Wing Commander Wing one um it's told to me I told whoever knows the answer to this question what happened was Wing Commander one came out right and then when I finished Wing Commander one we I started developing the tech and engine that would be strike Commander so I was going to do strike commander and we were also doing Wing Commander 2 at the same time which I wasn't uh so I was producing it and sort of overseeing it on the big picture side and Steve Bean was sort of lead programming it kind of more micro directing it Steve Bean had previously done um Savage Empire which was an ultimate game and so him and Ellen who is uh who is his wife now actually um

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     kind of work together and Ellen had worked I think on the secret mission uh don't know if she did the first or the second I can't remember but Ben would probably know better than me I think she gets an additional writing credit for this one right so um so yeah so they sort of they they were sort of doing the more like day-to-day on uh wi quanity while me and uh uh you know Paul Isaac um and Jason tempman were all like working at developing uh the what became sort of the engine that drove strike commander and then win Commander three and win Commander four okay uh what's your favorite space game not counting one that you did the favorite space game not K one that I did uh well I you know the original 1984 like Elite on the BBC

224. 03:07:34

     micro was pretty awesome so I you know played that play um yeah I mean you know now it's you know super basic but back then it was pretty mind-blowing um so I you know I would say nostalgic that would probably be I played it in the UK you know I was making games for the BBC micro at the time um and uh you know it was just it was cool it was you know it was all it was in 3D which is was quite unusual for games back then um so that that was good um you know more recently sort of I would say you know like the Mass Effect one and two um was were pretty good uh that's yeah sort of about it uh why was the story in Wing Commander the movie so different from we command the game uh well it wasn't actually really

225. 03:08:24

     meant to be that different so I mean it was you know it was meant to be the story sort of the first game which was essentially you're a junior pilot getting transferred onto the Tigers claw and you sort of thwart the the the kilay uh you know attack in the Vegas system so that is all actually in Wing Commander one um there just there's there's you know more attempts and Nar and also there's just stuff that isn't actually in the final movie that was in the script um because it's you know it's you know win Commander one when we did it there's ideas to make it cinematic and have characters but we didn't actually realize that that what we did could actually you know tell uh more of a story like you can see win Commander 2 uses more sort of movie you know like with the traitor and all the rest stuff it uses a lot more sort of movie kind of conventions and uh you know rather than

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     you know cuz wink man one is like a setting and it has the characters you interact with and it sets it up cinematically but it doesn't really have sort of a story with twists and turns the way a movie does whereas wi Commander 2 onwards does right because we saw oh well we can use this to really sort of tell you know even more cinematic stories um so there's I mean there's there's a little bit of that I mean I think uh that the pilgrims was an idea that Kevin Dron who was the the the writer had come up with uh and I quite liked it I mean the we had the we we actually had a problem like I wanted there's this thing that I loved about the Forever War which was that basically when you go and fight because of you know sort of the difference the sort of relativistic speeds and everything that

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     you know like in today's world if you go off and fight in a war you may not come back right but in a future War if it's off in space and you're fighting thousands of light years away you know with you know everything that comes with it not only you may die you probably will come back and everyone that you know at home is dead because you know you've aged three years because you've been traveling at the speed of light and they've aged you know X number of years and so you sort of so the idea was kind of like to fight in this war to save Humanity you had to you know you you weren't potentially making a sacrifice you were definitely making a sacrifice you were leaving loved ones at home uh you know so you know your Sweetheart would be you know 50 when you got back and you would still be 22 or 23 uh and so there was this sense so the idea was

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     that you know sort of have that sort of sense of sacrifice and loss and then there would be the you know the bonding of the the crew the people serving together because you know they sort of share that similar experience and so that was originally actually in the script um and it got uh cut out during the processes because um you know U Fox felt it was too uh too complicated and too sort of uh you know still the uh the love scene with maniac and Rosie there like oh I remember the briefing uh we get home everyone we knew would be dead and buried yeah yeah yeah well tell you no that's that's there's there's bits of it there was more there was much there was more that was more scenes I mean that's kind of like the that was the the connection between Devo and I mean it was all it was it it I felt like it humanized the characters better um and so uh you know that was it

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     and then you know we had a major character who was uh uh you know this character called Mill that was sort of like the a I um sort of you know whatever uh you know blaz version of Syria in the future um uh that you know we we shot and a whole bunch of this a whole bunch of the story and the plotline sort of depended on some Exposition that was delivered by uh the Merlin character and we were always going to shoot it afterwards and then we sort of had you know spent too much money and didn't have the ability and the you know producer um wanted to say well let's see if we can cut around it and we can just made it much more simple movie so um but you know in general the idea was you know the big Strokes of win Commander one were me to be the the big Strokes in the opening and paying homage to the uh uh the World War II war on the Pacific

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     theme the opening is meant to be the attack on pill Harbor and in fact the original there's a there's a there's a draft of the script which I'm sure Ben's got somewhere here where it's a much bigger opening right the original one wasn't what you saw the original one was like this sort of uh you know kind of it's basically the space version of Hawaii where like it's the main sort of um Confederation uh Naval base and you know they've got beaches and people are so basically they people playing in the S you know off-duty Sailors playing in the sand and then they sort of you know someone throws I some version of a space Frisbee and they look up and then they see the they see the the you know the the surprise attack by the by the kathi and you know it's so it's it opens much bigger and much cooler uh but again that was one of those things that um got cut

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     because of budget reasons um which was kind of aove space Y and space frisbees hopefully we can have a space Frisbee and start I want a space y space space y space y but you should shorten it in fact I believe that draft of the movie is out there online um if anybody wants to look it up uh it's exactly what it just links back to a file in Ben's apartment gos isn't space white I don't know the final intro that that ended up in the movie though was fantastic that's lot of people like that intro well it's a little I mean it's it's still a bit kind of it's still a bit pill haror it just feels much more you don't get the sense it was like uh we had to we had to reduce it down so um I kind of I kind of like the idea of

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     sort of open like I sort of feel like uh you know just of lessons making Ln man a movie I mean there it's uh um you know you just you have to establish certain con Concepts and connect them to sort of real people and real emotion uh early on um in a way that maybe in a game you don't have to do quite as well because it's like you know you're playing you and you're there and you spend more time with it anyway and uh so I think if there were some more of those like it doesn't like it always makes like if you think of like movies that have sort of like something like a global P like every time you see one of these movies movies where there's like a virus right uh and you know someone's trying to rush to save like the world or North America I guarantee you every time you look at one of these movies you'll

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     always boil down to you know the guy's daughter or wife or husband or whatever is now infected and they also have to they don't fix it their loved ones going to die as well as 100 million people the world was never enough well no I mean just it's you know it's uh you know that's it's sort of that's classic sort of um sort of Storytelling um to sort of make it sort of uh you know you can understand it on a on a sort of Primal emotional basis because you know like the concept of saving billions of people is is great but it's not it's not as emotional as saving your daughter or saving your son or saving your father or whatever it would be uh somebody asked if you could make a game based on any IP in the world what would it be uh uh it's you know I don't know it's

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     I don't think there's uh there's not really one I mean the two ones that I loved as a kid is uh you know Lord of the Rings and Star Wars so um you know they've already they've yeah it's been there so I prefer doing my own IPS then I mean I might my fantasy when I was a little kid was like if someone gave me a 100 million uh dollars which you know back then was a massive amount of money um I would like go make Lord of the Rings but Peter Jackson did it and did a pretty damn awesome job so uh you know and to be honest with you I saw a lot of the Rings like yeah that's kind of that's how I imagin the world to be which was which is great I mean that's the you know I fantasy G fantasy movies in general always to me look like they just went out some Fara and gave some on some like swords and ran around and play dress up whereas I sort of felt

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     like you know I believe the world of Lord of the Rings that was Peter Jackson did uh you know in in The Lord of the Rings not so much The Hobbit I say Hobbit's another story and and the same in Star Wars you know the you know episode 4 Star Wars that was like was one of the first times I saw a science fiction movie and I'm like I'm yes I I that whole world works for me I can imagine it and you know it feels big and massive now I kind of want to see your adaptation of the Forever War though well I think the Forever War is a uh it's I think it would be very difficult as a game Ian it's got some very cool Concepts because like one of the I think a movie I think Chris Robert's directing Forever War movie oh W i' brother see you the Ridley Scott is he doing it he he's had the he he bought the rights and he talks about it and

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     then he did prome meus and no it's got because it's got It's got it's got I mean it's got great ideas in it I mean it has not only the idea I talks about like you know the fact that you sort of leave and you come back and the you come back to earth and like society's changed right but you also have like they've developed you know they have this sort of status field so they have all these really Advanced weapons but then it all boils down to um you know everyone going into the status field cuz cuz once the nukes have been deployed and everything else and inside the status field um you know like modern weapons and Technology don't work so they all go back to like swords and you know Spears and axes and stuff um so it's sort of I've never read the Forever War yeah yeah it's Joe Joe hadman it it's h yeah it's it's it's very very very very interesting um I know I just keep thinking about that

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     fight at the end of ice Pirates I don't know why where everything's time shifted remember ice Pirates no no no he never I've seen people talk about these sorts from time to time and imagine relativity in a multiplayer online game sounds difficult some oh no definitely I me that's one of our problems in Star Citizen is sort of uh you know you can't like in single player games you can uh you know basically condense time and you know like you don't want you don't want the boring travel okay well we just you know you see your ship leaving and now your ship's arriving so you've cut out the boring travel bit but in something like Star Citizen it's difficult because everyone's in the universe together and you can't give people an advantage so if you're going to travel from point A to point B there has to be a certain amount of time you're going to travel yes our viewers have seen ice pirates thank you

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     guys who's in ice Pirates I think I've seen Robert urick ice Pirates it's uh at the end that they they the ship's going into a black hole so there's time dilation so everybody's getting super old as they fight so it's a big fight scene where everybody's hair is growing and and a baby is born in the middle of the fight and the baby grows up in the middle of the fight and starts fighting alongside dad stuff it's it's 1984 it's Robert urick it's it's like my favorite movie ever and he's never seen it is it is it a no I may have actually seen it strikes a little bit of a is it is a Corman special no it's it was a legitimate movie it tried to be anym no people use ice Pirates as the example of a bad movie when they're discussing things ice Pirates is a fantastic movie I have a giant 40x 60 poster of it I love ice pirs

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     uh someone was asking a question I thought was I didn't understand it but it was interesting enough I was going to ask you although I don't remember what it is by the way you can put on your like resume that you explained ice PIR finale of ice Pirates to Chris Roberts the wi Commander books were published by Bane is that what how was pronounced Bane uh yeah yeah they're like a Sci-Fi imprint I think of a of a bigger um Publishing House R Maybe random house I think they're independent now the question is would you pick them as a publisher again for Star Citi novels or pick a different publisher I honestly no particular opinion they seem to do a good job on the wing Commander one so it it depends we haven't really gotten to the point of sort of having those discussions

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     yet you can do all kinds of self-publishing now easily too that's true hey Chris were you conscious of the were you conscious of the conscious effort at the time okay I'm going have to reord this were you conscious of how diverse your cast of characters were throughout the win Commander franchise I was it like a specific Mission you set out to make them diverse or was it something that just happened well no no so basically the idea and this true in uh Squadron 42 too but the idea was that like you know the world is you know it's not Nations anymore it's like you know kind of you know the United Nations came together and it became like like one thing and then we went out to the different planets and colonized those and so I kind of wanted that feel of you know like I you know a multinational

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     like uh crew of force so you know yeah we just sort of had various different um you know nationalities and races because we s figured well that's what it would be it would be sort of a melting part in the uh Confederation Navy and the same for squadron 42 so so we have lots of various you know I mean we shot in England so obviously there's quite a few English accents uh but you know we have American and English and Italian and French and uh yeah have you heard Ben do angel we've been giving voice over to characters in the game and and uh for some reason Ben won't let anybody else do angel well he he he does angel every time you should hear your angel voice for Chris Roberts

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     why I need some dialogue to read is I don't have any dialogue for you uh somebody asked who the character doomsday was based on uh I don't sure if he's I mean we B I mean there's a few I mean I think we just he wasn't Doomsday the the depressing one uh so yeah I mean we just sort of came I mean know the wingmen were all sort of uh very uh you know stereotypes right you know you know Iceman's pretty much kind of you know yeah Iceman from Top Gun yeah I I read him as Iceman from Top Gun uh you know uh like Top Gun I I would never have known yeah yeah I read Iceman is Iceman from Top Gun and who's the one I read like Clint Eastwood the

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     the Iceman oh was it Iceman wi Commander Iceman you read like Eastwood he looks cuz he looks like C he looks like cwood yeah right so I go back yeah I mean some of the like when you know people like when Dennis or Glenn Johnson were drawing them you know they would especially later in the strike command this was more true where they would like you know they like if you take a look at the lead uh character and stke Commander he looks like n Gibson and I did at one point I was trying to persuade uh Robert uh and Rich Garrett that we I should go we should try to get like you know big actors to voice and strike commander and they all told me I was stupid that shouldn't happen um but that was also back when we didn't have money origin we got to uh how did you get Mark Hill and Malcolm McDow involved especially at a time when

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     video games weren't quite a big deal a very timely question with what you were just saying well I mean that was you know that when we did win Commander three so I mean you know EA bar or so there are yeah it's doomsday no that's this the oh okay yeah never caught his name uh so no I mean but so essentially um we just we cast we were just casting out here and so we had we had a casting director and um so we were looking through various uh people to cast and you know Mark Hamill came up as a possibility to play uh you know Colonel Christopher Blair and so I said yeah why not have a discussion and Mark came in we had I'm sure it was it was calm like that too yeah sure why not have Loy well

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     you know I actually was cuz I was kind of sensitive of not being to like like Star Wars so there was a bit of me that was like I'm not sure I wanted I should do this because you know you'll be accused of being a bit too star warsy um but yeah I thought he would be really good I thought you know like he's going to M because you know the character for Wing three was you know he's now he's like older than his his young version in Wing one um and you know I thought okay well I'll match up you know quite well cuz you know in you know obviously Star Wars Luke's is you know young dashing hero and now he's now he's uh he's you know he's he's he's got a few more miles under his belt uh and you know he's more experienced and uh you know uh you know a bit you know a bit more World weary and I think that that matches well with you know who Colonel Christopher Blair was meant to be in win Lanta 3 so so

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     that you know and then you know people like Malcolm again it's you know he was an actor that I've liked for a long time so so we just sort of you there was uh you blists that were discussed and say well how about that how about and then we you know kind of went from there and some of it some of them worked out some of them didn't but that's the way it works I was actually I was actually most stoked for John rice Davies he was my favorite character in R last Ark I love Salah you know everyone was like Indiana Jones Indiana Jones yeah Indiana Jones is cool don't me wrong but Salah kicked butt in that first movie yeah he's good well you're going to everyone's going to like uh John re Davis in Squadron 42 he's got he's he's you know all I can say is all those fun odd Libs when he's playing gimy in Lord of the Rings that they're definitely Libs cuz we we shot a whole bunch of stuff for him in combat

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     and yeah he was just throwing out all these taunts that were awesome who is the little kid I keep hearing that's toast sure it's one of my little daughters they both here in the background I got to take them to lunch here in a few minutes so yes you've given us more than enough time thank you so much um see any more Wing Commander questions for this Wing Commander live stream who thought of cool karath ship names like I can't even say them straa and dra he I can't say that uh I you know it sort of kind of originally started with uh you know like the whole kill Wy was like just trying to come with a name for them and so it's

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     like well they kill a lot and you know they have wrath and so like then it became kraay and then at that point you sort of went with the AY so it was like dry or salie and uh you know so you kind of went with that kind of sort of vibe and then I think as we went on we sort of added more and maybe added some more sort of gut I'm sure you know people were kind of influenced by Star Trek and you know whatever cling on or um so there's a bit of a you know uh but uh you know cuz you I I don't I think most I you know look let's let's talk Star Wars episode 7even Supreme load supreme leader soke yes like that must have been a joke when they were writing it and then it just stuck yeah so we forgot to change

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     it it's like they they pick had to pick a word they were never going to use so they could do a fine replace later and then never SP snoke snoke sounds really good I just like hi it's supreme leader snoke I'm like I just want I like I not introdu himself just like not sure I would be very intimidated think that's why you have to add supreme leader when you V like it sounds ah you know it's like H but snoke hey snoke's going to come beat you up oh woo scary all right uh one more question before we let you go why Hobs why did you do that to Hobbs why did I do it to Hobs why Hobs he was my favorite uh well uh well partly was because uh I uh actually well no yeah I wasn't I wasn't keen on the plotline of

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     Hobs being a that was sort of that was actually one of my things that I didn't fight enough with Steve Bean about cuz I that was the bit that I didn't like that much because I felt like it didn't match up with who the uh kathi were so I made him a traitor just a smash truth finally comes out I think I've said this before heard that before just go yeah stream's over everybody stream's over I know I'm going to cry now all right Chris have I ended on of Downer it's not very good though is it h anything you'd like to say to the

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     fans who are here celebrating your 25th anniversary it's totally awesome and I you know 25 years ago it's crazy it's like uh uh and it's amazing that people still play it even though it's in 320 by 200 resolution 26 colors uh but uh yeah no I mean it's it's h you know it's I mean it's actually kind of Fairly um touching because it's you know movies you know unless they're super old you know they kind of stand up like 30 40 years later it's like they you know they you know they're still in color you still got the sound all the rest stuff but games change so much because of tech ology changes so much so to have you know have something that carries on and people still remember and and like and uh then it's pretty awesome so I'm

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     always amazed by the impact because you know I just was making games thinking they were cool and they're done but I don't think they they would have you know the impact they did which was kind of nice so that's awesome so I'm glad everyone still is and anyone that's back star thank you very much because you're enabling me to well not me me and everyone here in all our Studios to make the next generation of space game with no compromise which is pretty awesome so thank you there you go all right I gotta go take my daughters around all right well have have fun get back to enjoying uh Ben and are you doing the voices Jared too yeah you do who do you play Jared uh I play Colonel hian I play Maniac I play Ice

253. 03:31:15

     man and I play that guy that welcomes you every time you land all right oh and uh Paladin T playing anyone oh no I don't have the right voice with it I think I'm boss man you're boss man night anybody who just just has a very steady don't have to put too much personality it cool he plays all the women I think maybe I should do something we were hoping Sandy would do Spirit actually I'm getting criticized on the stream here for not doing any voices so maybe at some point I have yeah you should later I'll do Doomsday when he shows up there you go I'm going to die going to die on this Miss I'm going die okay we got to lock these drawers people

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     just keep walking in interrupting the I jeez it just walked in here and interrupted the whole thing we had a good Pace going here for that guy just slowed everything to no all I could think to it was we were five Visions in so we still have over 2/3 to go you're all fresh now though right yeah really I didn't sleep at all last night I'm dying I was talking to B oh that's right he's good you're not playing all right hold on let me go back to the gam play yeah there we go all right who the hell does he think he is hello Rober we already we already did this yeah drinks are around the house everyone we got Everyone's an alcoholic here hey Maverick still alive butthead I was certain you were going to

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     die out there today we're all going to die you know it's just a matter of time Butthead all buttheads go to heaven the D BL movie I think but I know it's been sa for something something wonderful everyone here teases me because I have such a hot pilot but I'm not afraid to say it but they'll see they'll all see and they remember me is the man who aced the kill Wy secret weapon also there is no raffle going on right now guys won't that be great butthead are you adding all the butt heads

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     because Tom Wilson good morning Maverick I've been thinking about the Gwen hiar Bossman keeps telling that to the Phantom exitor is real there are a lot of ships who' flown missions and never been heard from again and no karate ships in the area only our own did I miss a line whoops that's why I think the gavar is real it's very specious m b and she's out there somewhere he's not wrong I think you're nuts boss Ed

257. 03:34:37

     what B Ed you're supposed to be sane Maniac I think everyone's supposed to be saying pretty sure that's a pre wck here by the way I'd like to thank uh our friend blonde mind name Christmas friend blond who texted me to compliment my haircut during that so thank you have we saved I don't remember we sa we did save but I'm going to do it again just in case out or something don't what did you have before I cut you off hey huh I cut you off as you were adding some I don't even now nothing's important we're just playing games here

258. 03:35:25

     well done you need to tpe out T out real quick slight technical difficulty no just somebody needs to be banned for twitch chat there you go Goodbye Oh No but there is like my uh not responding let's restart wi okay uh just this restarting for playing Wing Commander did we already tell the story about that uh memory bug the other stream I forget you know I think we missed that last time would you like to uh do the honor uh sure so um this this will probably resonate with everybody who's testing you know Star Citizen right now because game programming is like well if anything it's more complicated than a lot of

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     other types of programming just because you've just got so many currencies and everything and yet you're supposed to try and get things out at a certain time the schedules tend to be pretty tight so when Wing Commander shipped at the end when you exited the game it would say thank you for playing Wing Commander that's not what it originally said that was originally an error message reporting a memory leak of some kind or some kind of bug and the game was very close to shipping it didn't really do anything to your computer it just the game did not close up perfectly Chris is gone right yeah okay so the programmer I think it was how do you say his last name Ken Dem Demis Ken Ken demeris II uh looked at that and and just said I'm not we're we're never going to fix this so what he did was he changed the the like uh in I guess the

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     game's OS you know there's a um a line that says yeah right there's a there's there's a line that actually says memory error reads something and he just changed the error message to say thanks for playing wine commander and so he would always exit with the same memory error every single time but it was the thank you message and that's the way it stayed except that now with it on uh Gaga I I think it goes by too fast for us to see it here we are in the big what you quit Che no that should be the right wrong oh the color's wrong yesterday's Mission though crucial tipped off the kill Wy to our presence they don't know the size of our Fleet and they can't be sure that we're actually following them let's try to keep it that way it's hard when you

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     don't know what the next Line's going to be Lady Luck is riding with us though the reavers operating in this area have captured an intact droughty class fighter also Lady Luck was capitalized they're flying her back to the claw for our TCH and Intel boys there's a lot of kill rathy tactical data in that ship pilots that data could make the difference for us I need someone to escort it in I know I can do it colonel I love this Mission Maverick every time every time it's Maverick okay Maverick you're gamma Wing pick your wingman no you get to pick your wingman this time oh never mind no you don't the same one I just flew with cuz he was so reliable last time fine here's the setup yes we've been

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     through life and head R Vu Point by nav one nav 2 is your real destination make sure there's no no danger to our dery fighters who will meet you there escort him home one thing tactical recommends that nav 1 should be avoided for the trip home you are to return by way of nav 3 and use the asteroids recover good luck Maverick Squadron dismissed what happens if you try to use nap one to come home I think that's where there's extra froy waiting for you yeah the whole Kathy Fleet um if you know just use the male pronoun for the kathi ship that's uh that's how the It um guess you fact this Mission might fly twice if I can win this we'll save

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     it and then we'll have toast give it a go and maybe you can go to the extra nav point oh God just throw toast under the bus hey toast you can play but you got play from under the bus that's what I do that's what I do around here um in terms of the male pronoun to refer to ships I believe uh the captain of the Mark also did the same thing where he just said there's no way my ship could be feminine it's way too powerful so you know sexist Nazis he was a bad man he was as bad as you can get when you're bad for a Nazi that's right why go halfway not one of those okay nais one of the really bad ones going over

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     here that's pretty good see that I I honestly don't remember so this is this is another one of those missions that you go into secet missions 2 just absolutely dreading um yes I making form my wings so I can get this kill come on you all know everyone did that it's not a sound military

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     strategy Sandy just thought about today yeah that is a monster pile I believe that for this one they actually do properly cheat and give the uh the Kathy D the extra hit points no so it's not like the Rari Mission Oh you mean the Marine pilot isn't flying a standard dry yeah believe oh that doesn't look good that does not look good okay maybe I H that wasn't oh yeah you got it okay

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     but evidently not enough that's a deal breaker I think yeah let's try that again any significance of it saying commander helon on this door just a um actually we learned uh I tweeted this last night we I was looking through all win command One Design documents to see if we had anything cool we could show off show you a little bit later think another break um and I found an original character list so we learned uh sh Les's last name I saw that that's awesome um and we learned that colon houseing his original first name was Walter and got changed to Peter for this one um I only ever remember Peter and I can't even remember where I saw that uh you probably saw it today actually it's

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     on the uh it's on the reference card for this uh it's from Admiral St to col be her house well that's it for the front armor we were talking about that earlier the dynamic mus yeah and also the

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     cimitar is the only ship that doesn't really have a proper armor indic has you never know exactly how much you side armor in the front or back and front or back Shields yeah that's how I would always tell when I actually ran through my front or rear armor on the catar oh the music changed mm shot for ATT all right let's take out of rari's weaker in the rear no everybody javelins will not be this easy to destroy no they will you're all scw but have one

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     very nice all right let's try to save his draw Fe bit better still up over a thousand people watching not to put any pressure on you oh oh that's good that's good no I hit our drop oh

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     see that's one I to make this fight particularly H citar in classic form we all know this is what happens to this ship right that's why the game so exciting okay this is good I can just focus on one just don't get blown up here you have no forward Shields

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     looks like Shield generator took a hit yeah re Shield's not coming back up okay well we got the draw anyway yeah but there's going to be other nav coins it goes three and there's a at three whatst good lemon can draw the between now and the end of the mission they were but somebody has so you got a froy and four Dy I'm I Thomas

272. 03:48:21

     totally bad yeah yeah you're pretty banged up come to tennessy Slick new haircut yes this your haircut right I don't if I call it slick but it is a new haircut their backseat piloting for you Ben I'm impressed you're even alive this which Wing Commander was on the

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     Super Nintendo uh so there were three wing Commander developers and there only two were released uh this is one of them the other was the original Wing Commander uh there was a portal Wing Commander too that was completed but just uh never released and uh that game isely lost Roy jumped in yeah yeah guys it hasn't been a raffle for some time I'll tell you when there's a raffle cuz it'll look like me telling you that there's a ravel what are you raffling offs oh W that's pretty uh we're not above buying our viewers nice this is one of those things

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     I would do even if we had no viewers yes's coming in today I I uh you call impulse B it's Reese's snack mix it's got pretzel peanuts peanut butter cups and Reese's Pieces of it let's take I don't know where were they oh they're over at yeah I'm sure they're all there you put them on the couch we take them out oh my God the Dy got the kill and there's I think some more another pile of Dr I'm not going to ban the people spanning R ret it's too much that'd be all I'm here

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     doing I'm here to have fun not ban a bunch of people doing raffle when there's no raffle who would like to try some rees's snack mix with yep I do that thing where people try to put it in when no going exuded from all the others other we do have that bu me y why don't just do that hold on thank you you're welcome all right right now anybody that does an Eye raffle between now in the time the raffle starts goes into the exclusion list someone upset in 30 seconds it takes there

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     okay Lando would you like to try some Ry snack oh no thank you how about you no thanks then yeah I'm all right but thank you it is interesting interesting combo of flavors or more sure yay that's good get you a peanut butter cup in there too yeah right hey down to two that's pretty pretty close okay got to miss on you what the hell is he mean you're

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     friendly behind you as jeez all right did you win or lose I won nice hopefully is that it I think that's it I think you're you're done okay so I'm definitely not going to go check out what's the now point we'll turn this over to toast this we when you do these like little playthrough streams Ben do you always get to the end of the game or do you ever have ones where you like there's some mission that kicks your button you know make no we we try to win every Mission at least sometimes not all the winning conditions but we got to we'll we play it if we haven't uh we haven't quite watch last glad to see you made it back alive sir even losing would a take this key it goes to my bunk you just drop out right

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     you can't do that just tell around debrief I'm glad you both made it back it was tough sir but Maverick is a good Wing leader much better than he used to be much better H let's hear your report Maverick is this bad music is waiting an add one scratch one Destroyer sir and we were able to make contact with the captur Dy and lead him hair ouch yeah this is Del losing to briefing music but we won as for your numbers Maverick your log shows you baged 15 and boss man you're a

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     disgrace even the Daly got a kill jeez disco I'm eating first lieutenant drop by my office after you've taken a break enjoy a break but get a nice bre Blair come in I need to speak with assignments effective immediately you'll be reassigned I need you in a star Slayer Squadron flying Raptor class heavy Fighters oo Raptor

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     F I see sir I'll do my best the guide here Good Pilot I'm glad to hear it John that's all first lieutenant dismissed all right sure you save that save that wow what a what a what a sleeping quarters what are we Jim one maybe uh yeah coming up coming up is jhe one all right so I'm going to load midgard 2 toast would you like to do the

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     honors well time to see me live up to my call sign and toast all those bad guys um that's not how I me it okay we'll see how far Ben where did you get that large Burger pin uh internet okay fair enough sit Yu sit good dog hey no there is no prize if I uh beat this this memorabilia Private Collection a couple wow this we'll see my stuff tote tote to to to to tote what it

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     says H went to large yeah you're playing the same Mission you played now you're going to go through nothing thing well um so how does which that point you back for why am I even asking if you go one and two two have a friendly draw and then if go back if you go back to one okay okay well um don't get your hopes up people it may not even get that far I am not an excellent pilot I'm middling at this game but it's okay this game I'm an excellent P so I didn't notice this flag but Sandy has really organized my office yes and the kids

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     were helping her like so they were handing her things and she was putting them up I hate how need some order some food here the point where I have to eat something that's going to hurt silly you spent less time insulting me

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     more time invading he might not be dead maybe maybe details probably made with almond flour or something crazy okay don't lose the Dr R this is going pretty well H don't jinx

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     it oh that's the friendly that's the friend that's the thing I hate that yeah that's one of the tough things about this Mission you can't just zap a dra yeah ah there it went they got the drop well you might still be able to go back through nav one and see the mess that's that's all we're really here for uh I suck I'm sorry here's one good thing while we're only a third through we have beaten all of the escort misss at this point believe that one's the bad one yeah sorry everybody lost the mission

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     already no prize oh well there wasn't going to be one look at that two fraly is this the only time two fraly appear there's a three fry that in uh secret missions 2 so secret missions 2 is like an anthology like a spin-off game of wi man or one but it's not like a thck it's not an actual sequel expansion continuation so it's like another story characters but is it like smaller than a sequel like it's best missions and kind of us a lot of stuff um it's very hard movie like the movie that follow so it's the Ewok movies the battle for Endor this is better than

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     that it's my only everything I know you has to have a Star Wars comparison that's the only frame of reference I really understand so this this we peanut butter cup Christmas tree looks nothing like a Christmas tree that's what the internet was saying everybody's complaining about that I mean if I'm going to be honest it looks kind like a dog I'm sure hoping it tastes better yeah that was like a trending topic on Facebook it was an Impulse bu at the counter as I was driving in here and actually one of the better reasons ouch B if you get out of this alive that'll be a victory not as good as that big one PB one that we had last live is really good yeah do that one

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     that fire is never going to hit so like the T Series yeah kind more Ser it takes all the ideas of characters it takes place between the between the two mov oh right no twist that's no production I think kathi Saga has it need try to finish that up I just got too many SE Rio episodes in a row kind of your oh that's my I thought first the Lego droid Tails which I love uh no but then I realized you were talking about the droids from the 80 I I have this stuck in my head now what's up

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     dude 11 days away so wellday what's today what 12 12 days and a few hour still not even for that TR that's yeah that's that's pretty good this may the most anticipated well you see it's so much easier when you don't have to esir anything right well the thing is that dry goes after the cap ships yeah so stupidly yeah so it'll get itself killed part that has to do with oh time to slam my fighter into a rock

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     just put me out of my misery on shortes and prev that it was like cuz those were anticipated and then they left some people kind of you know so now it's like it's like we get another chance we get another chance and so it's like I don't think that these would be so I mean they would still be anticipated but I think they're even more anticipated because of the people in the chat room are very complimentary oh thank you but I lost mission well getting through froy though that's pretty good see toast versus Ben and aren Commander third person view everyone who we're playing wi Commander Armada not so after the secret missions that that's when the second one

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     came out no then there's the secret missions too then the second one came then we finally had enough you know a new story to tell in in a and secret 2 is kind of like a prequel TI two was done by the same team and they just did the engine of one to set up all the characters then wind Commander two then is there like another branch of secret vises before we Special Operations one and two two and three four those are less secret spinoff there's side games that are not part of them oh look they're running because the J is already dead these guys aren't even going to fight this like a piece of art that shows all of this these guys AR anyway kind of it like shows where it starts and what comes next and Spins off in certain

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     places there's AR side guess this image is just this is the main wow Star Wars before the current there was just so much stuff I was never going to know every novel and every comic book it's enough that it's interesting but also there's not so much that and it's all Canon and all is exists in the same universe so what happens in one Cannon for something else hey is

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     supposed to be a third fraly in this Mission well there is there is a nav three fraly oh yeah there's so okay actually that's why I like that they rebooted the Star Wars and basically said all right now all this these story books or other fed media are going to be Cannon and you can actually and I'm sure that they'll quickly spiral out of control with more than I can possibly handle but it's been good so far but i' I've read what I think I need to read enjoy what I've read you not been anything oh this is the best Star Wars ever but it's all been solid right I mean like I really really really b b yeah that I read like I I've never read a b that big that fat like it just right through it you know un like after no T was the dryer

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     was dryer one it was a good read I get a little annoyed now by the the the the ones grumpy though that made this might be the five other the legend their favorite Legend story or it might be the other two that R never caned to begin with officially not I don't get that you know yeah Lucas did such a good job of convincing people there was a Canon that there wasn't clearly George did not actually stuff like oh no this is a red level green whatever well and and they did he and the thing is this is they would take stuff occasionally from the that originated in the books and and go in a movie it's like in the prequels there saw a lot of stuff that came like corant I think you know was something that came from the the EU and um so on but yeah it's Fant

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     no yeah that wasn't bad was it but now my failure toast beat all he killed everything including the two froy and their JY whatever we just didn't get the we just didn't save the friendly try again well when you don't have anything to escort it gets a lot easier um oh yeah I did get to the epis where they shaca too and that was like kind of a you right which makes it even worse I guess that that he's all over the place not only is he in like maybe I could maybe the Clone Wars Cameo a would have been okay without without the episode three thank you viewers you know that's a lot of compliments for a failed Mission and your your guy said you got away pretty clean that's pretty didn't get through armor if he was just I'm glad you both

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     made it back but having actually go thank you it was tough but Maverick is a good Wing leader much better than he used to did you do it going through the other trans being let's hear your report kind of doing Predator type people was waiting scratch one Destroyer sir we couldn't findy colel that's that's quite an excuse we needed that we needed it very badly I just hope that we can achieve our mission without that data and then after the thing with he goes home to Kik M to kind of good job BS man good job this him going home to she that's after

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     yeah Captain Blair got promoted so this is a promotion just before we lose the entire SE I you star oh they're throwing shadeed you we don't we don't we don't have to lose at this uh juncture I just got reassigned to Star Slayer so okay we're not staying in Blue Devils and we're not dead as long as we don't retreat then we are still on the winning track okay well I'll let you decide where we go with this Captain Blair major Casey major Chen Captain pum okay okay all right what's the next one it's Jim either way it's yeah it's j I'm mispronouncing everything jenim one Yim the J's it's a y 25 years in my head

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     it's been the wrong way I can't change it hi Captain Maverick I'll pour you one of your usual looks like you're surviving this okay he in save so remember to save I just keep thinking oh yeah so damn alone out here I mean humans in general the Tiger's clock would be destroyed and no one would ever know what really happened sorry Maverick I'm tired haven't been sleeping much lately let me get that drink for you I didn't ask for a drink I fig if you're talking to the guy here would you care to draw me for a drink mck there is no more news of epson station or my fiance but I will not think of that now sh has Leeves we may fly in Asteroid Fields today I hope he is right there's something I wish to

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     try have you ever seen Ice Man in an asteroid field no I'm doing a he now I was going to say he does some amazing things I'm reading so much innuendo in this right now if his front Shield is gone he will turn tail and let his enemy come up behind him I'm I'm just saying you're ruining person uses the character they describe as like a sister to you I set course straight for large asteroid once at the last moment possible he rolls out the kathi does not always follow successfully of course Iceman prefers to do this in Hornets rapia not Raptors

300. 04:12:44

     let me tell you Maverick I have a bad feeling about this campaign real bad feeling real man in my pants everyone's getting more and more tense the farther we go into karath uh the farther we go into karate space maniac's not the only one who's getting close to the edge and I keep hearing rumors that this is a suicide mission that we aren't supposed to make it back back you think it's true no it has to be nonsense Colonel wouldn't do that to us would he dot dot well of course it's not as as

301. 04:13:32

     because they told you what it's supposed to be already um although interestingly for bz um with what Chris was talking about earlier uh we found the other day a 1995 very very very first pitch he did for the win Commander movie while he was still at origin and uh it has no pilgrims none of that stuff no no return to Earth to save the day it's all you no traitor Admiral toin has assigned the Tigers Club to the Vega sector to supposedly head off this Invasion and the reality is it's they're going on their own as a distraction while the actual battle is fought somewhere else so it is a suicide mission um and the the pilots coming to realize that and finding out that they're not going to survive is the Arc of the movie uh it it's very interesting uh we will

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     ask Chris if we can uh scan that and put it out for your save game I think I think two this is still mission one is replayed Raptor and here's what's happening now following made an course change towards asterid field we also received a cod ofation with the L reer said we'll be bringing them home in down back Wing assignments and yeah that's about it mavick is you're going to be B how you like that you want to be B trying to keep mavick out of trouble okay you he's the wing leader I will do what I can kind I get I yep by the way we should still another raffle cuz we finished the series Maverick check out the three nav points

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     and then you the capital na point so stay alert the commander explains the other ring assignments I to be careful about dis all right what should we rle B uh we back in that last series we blew up that Draymond we could raffle off a uh a hall SE okay don't do it yet guys it's still on the exclude all right we are opening the raffle for a whole C the raffle is now open did you your eye Raffles or your exclamation point Raffles let that collect through the through the next here you write the name down last time write the name yeah

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     raar door Dash slow down yeah I'm just so afraid if I eat anything big it's it's going to double me over huh with no sauce you do you remember the no sauce part otherwise I can't eat it it'll cause all kinds of different trouble for me

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     anybody oh no I'm all right thank you though it's a pretty short walk here I I'll I'll text you so you don't have to remember uh chicken casy see I I'll text it to you right now yep Spirit let's take a

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     fry I'm making it through guys thanks for asking I wasn't able to sleep at all last night but I'm in less pain now than I have been in the last 24 hours so that's good it's progress it is good yeah well you know you had a choice you know I'm not like I'm not like some hero or anything it's I was either going to be miserable at home by myself or here at least doing something fun so the pain was going to be the same either way might as well be doing something fun and helping out a friend to was really excited about this

307. 04:18:51

     I could tell uh what was my issue uh yesterday uh almost immediately after actually it started during reverse the verse you if you no no there were some parts where you watched anyway if you didn't watch you're not going to notice at all parts where I was just quiet like I was having trouble reading my vision was going and it's cuz I exploded a disc neck and the cartilage was uh swelling in my neck and and cutting off my uh windpipe so I wasn't getting oxygen to my head I was getting dizzy and couldn't focus that started about halfway through reverse the

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     verse and then about an hour later I was just th so I went to the ER and got a shot in my neck and some painkillers but I had already self-medicated before hand and some combination of the new meds with the old meds and whatever uh a couple hours later about 9:00 at night I started getting bleeding inside my intestinal wall so and that caused a bunch your body makes a whole bunch of gas when you're bleeding and that was getting trapped in there so I had like the world's biggest gas bubble trying to burst its way out I'm not going to lie I like the Chris Roberts interview better than this one but I hope your guess yeah no it's a now anyway like I could sleep right now

309. 04:20:29

     whereas I could not sleep before I'm looking forward to being asleep when we're done with this go take a nap you can yeah this is our thing your wingman don't leave your wingman yeah there's no more to the story just spin all night rocking back and forth whimpering to myself wishing I could fart went to the just in case it was like appendicitis cuz it was on the side with

310. 04:21:18

     your appendix but nope justtin mixed a lot of drugs IX yesterday trying to deal with my exploded discs in my neck and that I got to get checked out next week I have to go to a specials next week and check that out so gave me one pill that I don't have to mix so I just keep on the one pill now it's working pretty good so far uh we are continuing off of toast's run right I think so yeah you you didn't start it up again if you're a captain

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     you're we're continuing off to think you're captain SOA did not get that uh gry hopefully they have another chance soon that's what happens in too gotta and you get to fly it you to fly a dry secret Miss 2 that's cool you have to wait till April for that one you APR okay when's this 2th for wng two uh it should be the end of this year no end of next year 2016 so after after probably around the time SPID comes

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     out mid here mid here I actually don't know what I feel like November Maybe somebody look up when secret missions 2 came out and put it in chat no that's April that's April no somebody look up when wi Commander 2 came out put it in chat I'm excited I don't know any wink matter 2 is the only one I know nothing about like people are talking about the trader I genuinely have no idea who the trador is oh yes there will be a wing Commander 2

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     25th anniversary stream uh whenever it released the traitor is Nicholas Cage excuse me Commander I have noticed enemy ships so polite my honor is to obey yeah 1990 was a different time folks um does Private tier come after Wing Commander 2 yes private tier is 93 actually we do Privateer uh yeah 2018 I I want I want to do we Commander 3 and just talk all talk over Mar camel

314. 04:24:45

     the entire time we're just going to mute all of the cinematics and we'll just lip sync what is she thinking that's not a bad idea yeah I'm looking forward I I I I've never played wi commer 2 I've never played Privateer I never played win Commander 1 when we did the win Commander one stream and uh for like the next two weeks after we finished that I couldn't get the music out of my head of course it didn't help that toast just randomly plays the win man music in our living room it's hard cuz you can't tell whether it's in your head or whether

315. 04:25:33

     toast is playing it the answer is usually both Thomas H is he shaved his beard because his hair sh looks good I did play play freelancer played freelancer at a computer

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     then never played starlander I don't even know what starlancer is like I understand what Privateer is in relation to wink man I don't know what starlancer is star okay so you got to tell the difference between Privateer and wi Commander yes uh you a freelancer Chris Robert's freelancer uhhuh starlancer is Wing Commander to freelancer it's a different Universe it's not part of the win Comm no it's part of the freelancer universe yeah oh starlancer after freelancer uh no star Lancer is like hundreds of years before fre no like when it came out no it came out for it was digit ev's first released game I thought built largely by uh our team in uh in the UK

317. 04:27:13

     Aaron n all them like to see a really good of Troopers game it was a good one it was a uh it was like a uh RTS yeah I don't think I ever played it I remember being interested like oh I'm going to get that I'm going to get that get that and then I was drunk or something when it came out and I didn't get it what are our favorite TV shows on television uh that's hard I'm a I'm a sucker for superhero stuff so I love all the all the superhero shows I I Adore Jessica

318. 04:28:02

     Jones coming around to it we we watched a couple upes uh my biggest surprise like my biggest discovery of the 2015 was fed and Alexis introducing me to Rick and Morty Rick and Morty is probably my favorite I wish there was I like there's a hole in my heart where Rick and Morty should be every week uh have not watched expanse have you watched the expanse yet haven't people are talking about the expanse one of those things one of those things I watch I'll watch we just haven't yet jeez we lost the transport you say cheese I said jees well let's try that

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     again sorry guys you get a metal apparently the raffle will go until the mission is over guys so a raffle duration is the length of One mission one successful Mission I think this is the Midway point is that right are we on that I have no idea I love Rick and Morty you see that there's a Rick and Morty cross Junior commercial now no I se yes they did a rick Morty car commercial where Rick bust in Morty's bedroom and a bunch of mutant Burgers follow him in the western Bing cheeseburger and they're all jez Rick they're getting they're getting sauces all over my bed that wasn't a bad Morty no pretty

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     good there is no force on this Earth that can make me drink Pepsi lman right now I have enough intestinal distress I've never seen Bojack Horsemen but Ben watched it and they they they raved about it yeah first time through you we started and then we gave up and then we gave another chance once you get say Midway through the first season it's good um September 1991 for okay so that should be a bit after Squad I we don't even have a really day so I can't get one

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     Buckaroo Bonsai is indeed one of my favorite films and ultimately is responsible for a huge uh basically I the first like 10 years of my adulthood I was trying to be Buckaroo Bonsai it's one of the reasons I went from job to job in so many different vocations I wanted to be that guy that that that that Rockstar brain surgeon you know combination of those those engineer uh yeah bugaru Bon was how I I I pattered my early adulthood well at least tried to anyway I have to admit to not succeeding where grons I did

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     yeah defend summer was a pretty good episode oh the R Leaf summer in the car yeah defend summer I ad minute when when the laser Cris cut fries that dude and he just falls into a pile of Cubes it was so absurd peace among worlds Ben World always remember matter where you go there you are oh yeah I know I love Mr Mees I have two

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     Mr Meeks Mr me was is definitely my favorite oh Mr me look at me I bought the official Mr Meeks they sold at San Diego Comic-Con and then I bought a hand woven Mr Meeks from Etsy from Romania and it was better those Romanian music sellers they uh did good well that's gun yeah know bakaru Bonsai and Big Trouble in Little China Jack Burton bakaru Bonsai those those were those were my heroes then they ask did you pay your dues Jack

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     yes sir checks in the mail what did you do W Mr Bon you are not brought into this world to get it I really enjoyed get shwifty that wasn't

325. 04:34:46

     been Alexis's favorite episode but I I really enjoyed get shwifty and there's a remix by DJ Andrus you go to Google search for DJ and andromus or just search for get Swifty remix it's quite an exceptional remix of of get Swifty it like redeem mix the whole episode worth worth Wild get trifty remix highly recommend it when is the raffle while the raffle is going on right now you can do an exclamation mark raffle be injured to win a whole SE from

326. 04:35:34

     Star C oh I'm getting worse yes I definitely cannot help you not in this regard you can only enter one Jack Burton would apply a starf over all

327. 04:36:28

     SC I know because my starf is going to be called the POR chop Express really that wasting the star the background Circle yes Dennis Hopper would would fly H

328. 04:37:20

     SE which Dennis Hopper though are we talking like 7s cool Dennis Hopper or are we talking modern day Den Hopper I don't think modern day Denis Hopper would even get off the couch what's he done he hasn't done anything in a long time is he still alive yeah I don't know you know honestly the last thing I remember seeing was Entourage he played himself in that popper I'm pretty sure he is yeah sure we don't need to look it up I'm sure that the chat roll will no he's dead really died in 2010 what he's been dead for 5 years no that's why he stopped working stop the same place he's been

329. 04:38:09

     for the last 10 years par s this is shocking news yeah but he does have a movie coming out next year so it's just what a freaking bear post production is that and he had two films coming out this year this doesn't make sense he wasn't that Old 74 if you it's not very old in Hollywood years though no but you live the kind of Life Den Hopper Live Well that's true it's still not that old in Hollywood years though not great still the same Mission um if you have two three minutes to help

330. 04:39:00

     me pick that wall up I could use that help three people oh wait can you lift stuff yeah find let me know if you need a different third person yeah so I I'm trying the nav's trick with this I went right to the Draymond this time uhhuh oh and now it's not going home it's not following me there's no amount of like driving by it to get it to link up 's see I did you go to nav one that's where so that's the type of thing that like programmed in as a trick no there's the drain

331. 04:39:48

     which block of salty and the uh oh there was no way I had I had two guns and two nap points to go you want try oh I don't know I I'm happy to I'm happy to play relief I can take one more pass we came really close the first time we we got to the last crant and it blew up the transport yeah I it's unlikely I can beat a mission you can't beat but I'm happy to try if you need to if you need to stand in all right Spirit breaking attack all

332. 04:40:35

     right the answer was no done we're in the middle of a whole sea raffle right now building our sets in the next room sets for ATV sets for RTV and maybe more that show we keep mentioning hey Ben what's your favorite Mission not this one um so is it 14 or 16 can we look that up yes you just want to know a road map for the

333. 04:41:25

     evening is there another stream on later what's wrong with this stream the heck guarantee this one's going to be OD later is there another stream on later maybe with some more interesting people and different subject probably I know what I'm not love well the answer will probably be yes depending on what your definition of later is Right Ben Lando biggest concern for you about the new Star Wars films I don't have I don't concern about movies yeah we had some guy that us the other like what you the St might be bad but I don't be great I don't I don't understand the point of having concerns about upcoming movies the movie will be what whatever it is if it's good awesome

334. 04:42:13

     if it's bad oh well it's bad we've been through that before I'm not going to prejudge a movie and then worry about it I can't affect it nothing I can do can change the quality of the movie so I don't have any concerns about it I hope it's good only at the very least then I won't be upset about yeah gwi be remix good job KTB any movie that's ever made might suck that's not a concern all right I like the people involved I like everything I've seen

335. 04:43:02

     from the new Canon I'm hopeful it is it is and you know if it's terrible I'm reasonably sure it won't be terrible but if it is terrible we had a great time getting there now that's what the reason I had the reaction with to that question was what Ben said somebody came after us on Twitter the other day was like oh what happens at the Star Wars movies suck are you going to are I going to be able to handle it I'm like yeah it was such a weird like it was it was attacking us because Star Wars might be bad I'm like okay it might be bad what a weird thing to worry about

336. 04:43:53

     what a weird thing to worry about he was worried that I would be prepared if it sucked it's a movie you have to prepare yourself it's a movie although you should read the expanded universe to get although you should read the expanded universe it's really good I really like the new Cannon and Black Cauldron was made at a very interesting time for Disney Star Wars is like family for some people yeah Star Wars is like my family but again my family members screw up I mean I sto loving them it's the

337. 04:44:45

     same with Star Wars the Star Wars movie is terrible I'm not going to stop loving Wars I don't believe it's possible to ruin Star Wars what comes after doesn't negate what came before can all just pretend to did you win no what' you ask can pretend it just Happ as we've done for a long time now so far I really like the new the new euu not everything is amazing but I haven't hav been stinkers like the the worst the worst I could say about things in the new the new Canon are like well

338. 04:45:33

     you know that was all right like the Princess Leia the Princess Leia 5 issue series didn't resonate with me I'm not carrying a whole lot for the Chewbacca series either but I love the Darth Vader series the Darth Vader series is fantastic both the Star Wars series and and I I didn't like the first issue of Lando but by the time the series end came ran on the Ewok Adventure in the battle for

339. 04:46:28

     Endor yeah I used to watch those movies with kids cindell and mace and wiford Brimley can't remember what Wilford brimley's character's name was not you need yeah I've been watching Star Wars rebels Star Wars Rebels is great Star Wars Rebels is getting great the second season has been better than the first season I think it's mirroring Clone Wars it takes them a while to find their stride I think the third season of rebels will be as good as the third season as B Wars was there's still some hit and miss episode whoer brinley's name was Darth

340. 04:47:36

     diabetes song Is My Jam y flesh Tax Works where Disney Warner Brothers box Sony keep their Movie Masters 220 ft underground does that mean you're in

341. 04:48:29

     Southern California cuz that's a place I'd like a tour of and now nav one has six fraly that's incredible six fraly sorry salty with the froy oh no I took them out already uh so I don't know exactly what I've done this time I went to nav one I went and have two I cleared them both I skipped and have three I don't know where the transport went let's see if I want it it will you'll be able to proceed no matter what oh really I think so well let's see what they say I did I did the naps but I did them in the reverse order it's like

342. 04:49:25

     badman are you and Ben Hy y see Star Wars on the 17th why these are our tickets this ticket is this ticket is for when we're going on Thursday these tickets these are 50 seats in an assigned theater for Friday we're taking the whole Studios and then we'll probably see it again on Sunday so can I continue on even if the game thinks the uh I think only jhe 3 really matter really matters there's three missions I'm going to count it as done because we

343. 04:50:13

     did it the drop just just save your save game but I think you go to bifrost if you if you successfully passed three I haven't earned anything either I'm just waiting it's starting to make me a look crazy some of the pilots too I keep telling the pilots not to worry the colonel knows what he's doing but what if he doesn't that's what Knight said in the yep pull up a seat lad have you heard the latest from tactical nope I I I went way too Scotch they finished the computer analysis of the kathi secret weapon there's nothing we can do to deflect that damn energy Blaster once I've aimed it at the planet based Colony but at least that's a weird

344. 04:51:04

     sense well now have well now you have to worry about them using it against their ships tactical says that the weapon would be useless against f fighters in the Starship I'm losing it getting further and further away from Sheamus McFly can't find it that's a we bit very short is it oh he's getting into fights when people call them a chicken those Lads and tactic are impressive we how they figure these things out when they C Sims of course their guess is always correct I was always this problem you never thinking about the future like that time they told us the new dry ships wouldn't have enough range to attack the Epsilon Prima system we lost five Pilots because of that mistake ta usually very accurate all right it's time to pull the raffle oh

345. 04:51:52

     yeah finish but I wager your life on that L closing the raffle raffle is closed the winner of a whole C is L DK Lo DK congratulations you've won yourself a whole C uh please send a private message to the c community twitch channel uh including the email address of your registered Star Citizen account and we'll award that whole SE next week if you don't have a star sciss app for what for whatever reason wow I'm losing my ability to talk go to Roberts Space industry.com no your account then s is that Emil and we'll send you your whole SC yeah start

346. 04:52:42

     Angel hello Maverick I heard you saw plenty of action today the K are using very smart tactics against us I've been recalculating our odds of surviving this Mission I wish you wouldn't sound soir of them last their SMS are getting us killed one one I don't know what just happened there there SL getting we may be their enemies but we cannot strengths they know this area of space they are smart and tenacious all but the longer we're here the better we know this part of space and we're smart and tenacious too and we're becoming just like a just like the

347. 04:53:31

     K you see everybody in the par is CL breaking down we will survive ATT and that is what matters or you never existed Pilots is cat and mouse tie after taking a low slow evasive track around the asteroid Fields our query has now come up to speed and taken a course we can't think of any reason for this tactic unless they're leading us into do an ambush and we're going to follow them right into their trap we're doing what sir we're getting to take the baites

348. 04:54:18

     pilot but on our own turns we're going to launch all fighter Wings on different routes through the asteroid Fields T thinks the Ambush is set up at nav 3 the wings will travel via nav 1 through the asteroids at nav 2 and Ambush the Ambush at nav 3 destroy them and return bring assignments same as last time the colonel quickly lists off the assignments including yours Alpha Maverick Spirit any questions what is it tagger the other Pilots think that Maniac is NE for the it's not the best time to bring up that what do you have to say about that sir I can't if I can't fly then I'm I'd rather be dead please don't ground me so he's suicidal all right get up there just kind of confirms the yeah

349. 04:55:06

     he's fine he just wants to die do guess there's no nobody to escort this

350. 04:56:42

     time yeah that makes it a bunch easier I don't quite remember what the Ambush is you want to know no no let's have be a surprise yes this is to last a while

351. 04:57:51

     grants on the rocks always like it's interesting when you start off

352. 04:58:39

     better asteroids are the toughest thing in the world and we just kind of naturally come to avoid them by this point I say that because I'm sure I'm about to be hit by an asteroid there's a big debate in the channel about whether you should use your missiles or not yeah cuz I'm not sure what's at the last nav point I'm trying to save them I would I would probably save them at the point where you get down to just one enemy you don't don't waste on it unless you know it's the very yet um I I I am a missile saver try to save my missiles as much as I can uh which is OB because I'm I'm so bad with halfers I think it's Jim yhe 2 two or 3 two

353. 04:59:28

     yeah it is 16 missions 16 missions so what is this eight or on eight so you got bifrost and then vigrid and valgard well at least one of those is a three Mission Series yeah this is this is this is this is the halfway point when you get through this oh this is the yep Commander is a marathon can okay now we're going to find out what that Ambush is looks like a froy oh guarded by graa five five of great yeah this looks like a

354. 05:00:27

     challenge people are asking how Lando is doing is he alive yes he is I believe he's uh moving stuff okay he's not he's not ill we're doing some work today okay he's just working okay he's helping together so they're asking are we going to are we going to finish it even if it takes all night oh yeah yes we're here till the end we're here till the end but running from the Gwar is an option really comes to that thing about the gavar machine is you get the metal if you don't destroy yeah there's some good observation of

355. 05:01:26

     um you you use a lot of After Burner but you also use Cruise speed a lot and that's uh interesting like a lot of people go Max Speed i max speed sometimes I find I tend to hit i t to more in close quarters when I Max spe true are Chris

356. 05:02:29

     question I don't know it's specific or Des what's it were there specific questions about the ship models yeah a Rapier what's that is this a Rapier no this is a RoR I keep getting those to confused he just asked if you knew about them yeah we do they're right here hopefully he'll ask position

357. 05:03:19

     question one oh he's asking was the bomber the same model as the gamma from starer I don't remember the gamma from starlancer but I could tell you if I saw it I know they reused uh one of the 3D models for conquest yeah that yeah a number of models were reused used elsewhere um I'd have to look at the specific ones but yes in a few cases there were there were some winkman movie models that did find their way to other places that I have never realized this is a it's more or less about informance when I ran out of time to see I I played when Commander Privateer I missed out on freelancer

358. 05:04:07

     was interesting in um I don't think you had to do as much up front build up your ship you could just kind of go into the story but then after the story there was a vast amount of stuff you could go explore and do so was kind of quick flop the private tier yeah private tier there was no way you really had much of a chance against death egg if you weren't flying a centurion right with good Shields or at least there as much in the way of that the Centurion could handle anyway right I would run it up and if I needed to just bring the shields run at a lower level but if but you go into the fight at full Shields and then once combat hits and your Shields have been weakened

359. 05:04:53

     anyway then you go to two3 Shields or whatever right so that because they weren't going to regenerate that fast anyway yeah and then you get that you know deess power to your guns I was not that sophisticated in player I mean the extent of my combat planning was sometimes like it's okay to go to that system they have a shiper I can St missil okay good I would operate out of a very narrow stretch of territory like Oxford real small little compact clean system just hung out there a lot you get familiar with a particular trade Lane nobody forced you to be there but it's just convenient yeah um for me

360. 05:05:42

     it was mostly between um Perry and new new Detroit mostly because I just really like new Detroit mhm RoboCop uh he new Detroit I think RoboCop no this is Privateer it was the it was um in industrial Planet it's not RoboCop should make a Robocop MMO huh great ouch just ripped off all of your guns almost all of your guns I had to I had to go to a new manager orientation and answer a bunch of questions recently and one of these questions standard questions is if you could be anybody in any movie who would you be and people came up with different things and and they were just

361. 05:06:32

     like Darth Vader and Star Wars and things like that I said I would love to be RoboCop in World War Z so right they wouldn't pay any attention to you and You' be Invincible besides yes there will be more Raffles down to one gun yeah unfortunately I still have the other two nav horns nice special request nice job Spirit besides the the three okay guess

362. 05:07:31

     technically four RoboCop movies now the made other one remember they had the RoboCop TV series TV but there there was the the I was getting that the Canadian it was TV series like it was a Minier like four made for TV movies Prime directives that those were good uh production value problems aside low low budget yeah but but what they were trying to do was good rocop 3 man RoboCop three my goodness that's what happens you know there are geniuses in the world and some Geniuses I would even me venture to say most gen Geniuses need restrictions they they need somebody to pull them back to reel them in sometimes

363. 05:08:20

     yeah when George Lucas gets to do whatever he wants you get Fant of minut know uh Frank Miller you know one of the principal writers of Robocop you know in his comic he got to do whatever he wanted with RoboCop 3 we got ninjas and jetpack didn't kersner direct that yeah it was his last movie urvan kerner's last movie it's like when you if you told me hey the Rob cup 2 he directed Rob cup 2 oh he directed Miller was in two then they were they were together I know that was yeah yeah Miller wrote two yeah but the pitch is like hey I'm going to tell you right now I've got a movie written by Frank Miller and Irving CER is going to direct it it's sci-fi kind of action gritty you're going to be like wow that's going to be and instead we got nuke n you know what though

364. 05:09:10

     at least they weren't the prime directors have you seen those films I just talking about those just said they were surprisingly good I came late to the uh to the party I thought that they equated more to the battle for Endor of the of the franchise hey wol brle is a saint that also referred to uh ice Pirates is one of his favorite movies earlier ice Pirates is one of my favorite movies all of ice Pirates the score by Bruce Bon Bruce bout what do you the IMB Bri Pirates yeah I'm the I like the last star fighter for the last star fighter is excellent last starf

365. 05:09:57

     fighter doesn't age real well I love no it you're right visually it does not age at all well at all I'm talking about the the story Robert Preston everything with Robert Preston in in and last star fighter is gold you give me the music man you put him in a Sci-Fi movie he'll get me every time I I I I still enjoy I maybe some of this nostalg just like I like the idea of like the whole subplot with the synthoid and his girlfriend it's just yeah away from the yeah it's not check he is available Yeah we actually can't do this oh you let him know CU we changed the audio Yeah I have to take it all down just tell okay I mean I mean really

366. 05:10:47

     Jared huh really though what came out in the80s that wasn't Star Wars or Star Trek in the Sci-Fi genre that really does hold up still ice Pirates I I was being I I was I was actually asking that serious question ice Pirates you're getting a serious answer uh ice Pirates is good um ice Pirates is also good Young shock Holmes is a fantastic movie it's on science fiction but it also it also has a a score of by Bru you know what else I like from the80s Inner Space Inner Space o yeah wow that's great Jack also space boss is on HBO GO right now or HBO now I remember the salutation Dennis quate uses when he has an

367. 05:11:36

     exceptional drink of alcohol in in space two things you have to know about the cowboy one I makes loves with my boots on and two he has to make that make Ryan face and his face is a fantastic movie about movies in the ' 80s guys if you're talking about such DD not in the 80s the ships will be awarded sometime next week okay my work mode Weird Science is pretty good yeah it didn't hold up as well but

368. 05:12:26

     it was a fun movie at the time TV shows version yeah oh my God what happened to her same thing that happened to him so do I fly an naude do I face the asids or do I go home and see if I can win without uh Enemy Mine Jamies going for it a Mickey Mouse Jamies Jamies of Jamies eny mind's an excellent fly to the

369. 05:13:12

     navigator that my favorite T Herman kind of makes it harder to like when you go back yeah I like you at one point he just completely gives up he's doing PB Herman when he's going through that Montage to different voices and stuff Point yeah just so uh have you seen XM Jared I have it it's been in my it's been my thing list of things to watch for well ever since it came out on home video I I didn't make it to the theater when it came out but it's one of those movies I'm guaranteed to like everything I I've seen and heard about it is right up my alley I just haven't gotten around to watching explorers uh explorers does not hold up

370. 05:14:01

     you go back to that it is a weird movie so got Robert picardo in it though coward the duck October although admittedly I enjoy Crimson Tide more um I don't about that anyway I think I'm going to hit the dusty trail maybe make it home before the sun is completely set or maybe not we might be done by the time you get back you never know are we that close to to finishing no no he back on Monday no that's what I'm saying

371. 05:14:51

     oh witty witty witty I might come in tomorrow too I don't know uh probably not but run away with Tom cic that's a good one we're just talking just movies in general now thing was great okay the thing was so good oh the thing is the best the thing is the best someday I'm going to own a pair of the glacier sunglasses that he has I I it's a the glasses he wore in that movie were were rare in 1984 so they're they're nearly impossible to find today uh I find him on auction every once in a while for about 300 400 bucks how do we feel about the black hole Disney's black hole yeah it's good movie yeah yeah you know what else I appreciated about the black hole or I did when I was a kid was they came out

372. 05:15:38

     with toys and the toys were like 3 and 3/4 in and they mixed well with my my Star Wars action figure so it was like an expanded universe of uh of toys so that that fit right in visually you know with some of the stuff so uh did you see the link for the new Tron game no anyway going yeah they Deb it during the game fans it's up on Steam where right now I I sent the link in your uh and new TR yeah the thing is the thing is probably in my top 25 space Hunter adventures in the

373. 05:16:28

     forbidden zone there's a whole rash of movie space Hunter uh Metal Storm the destruction of Jareds sin it's probably kind of I I bet is anybody I guess they can they can hear it no yes the cleaning people are vacuuming there's no way you can hear what we're saying right now Joshua would you like to play again you see the uh that uh uh that company that makes the big giant kubric books they did the the big

374. 05:17:16

     three pack that cost like $1,000 they're releasing the 2001 book separately I got that I just got it you just got it like it arrived yeah you looked at it last night did I yes no yeah I took it out when we went to get the battery out of the thing I held it up you no why don't I have mine ttis sh ttis sht C I can't remember say it I don't know how you pronounce PTI casti casti it start with a t oh c that's what I said oh okay that what I said no my Amazon orders is just a bunch

375. 05:18:06

     of Captain plasma oh maybe I never ordered it that would explain why I didn't nope it's just a bunch of uh Star Wars X-Wing miniatures and uh Captain FMS I guess I never wored it do one one of those things it's very difficult to search for on the internet yes yes which I like to think that if Stanley kubri had known about the internet he would not have changed a thing he would have been delighted that

376. 05:18:56

     it was impossible to search for what science fiction books do you want to see filmed was said Forever War earlier I would love to see it as like a gritty Vietnam movie I mean you know do it to all Apocalypse Now Full Metal Jacket style uh for me just about anything written by Tim Powers I'm a huge Tim Powers fan uh specifically the Anubis Gates I would love to see the Anubis Gates developed into like an HBO TV show and I would love you know someday when we're old did use my Incredible video game clout that I I'll have by then they to make an Anubis Gates video game the Anubis Gates By Tim powers and on

377. 05:19:45

     Stranger Tides by Tim Powers which was which will never get made because Disney bought the title to use for Pirates of the Caribbean 4 and just threw the book so sacrifice the book but on Stranger Tides by 10 poers is one of my favorite uh science fiction fantasy books I've ever read so that'll never get made so baring that they knew this GES you know what other movie that that ruined the possibility of Monkey Island monkey that movie would have been cool so the Pires of the Caribbean movies trashed Monkey Island trashed on Stranger tide they just stole from all these other sources and then bought them out so that no that they'd never have to worry about it being I mean I don't even want to say

378. 05:20:32

     that they stole from monk Isen cuz you know it's a funny pirate movie everybody can have that idea independently but it kind of prevents them from ever making mon in the movie uh books I'd like to see Forever War obviously is one um I will take as many remakes of Starship Coopers as you want to make yeah uh Foundation I think I think like a and you know most books don't make a yeah I think the way the TV is come around now though that like like there's there's actually a fantastic Elon hubard decology called The Mission Earth series that'll never get made because if it's association with Elon hubard and after the Colossal failure of Bal Earth but it

379. 05:21:20

     but the mission Earth series would have been an amazing like pay cable or Netflix TV show so here's an interesting thing where did the you go yes I've seen Robinson cruo on Mars how are we doing cuz um well we had an interesting glitch the froy Disappeared before I could get it got to go back now there it is H that happens sometimes yeah right how was that not that so now

380. 05:22:13

     now you can use your missiles right oh yeah I I killed the grath already this is all that's left not that I need them for a froy I mean the threat of a Kathy capital ship is that you might accidentally run into it that was one of the main things I thought might be different about Star Citizen and then they get so scary wi Commander too well they get so invulnerable in Wing Commander too oh wait no no you're talking about the animat guns right oh no the yeah the need need of a torpedo to yeah the torpedo runs Shields heavy flat

381. 05:23:05

     Cannon all right here we go that is two on to the last mission this is this is our first three mission system so the third mission okay and then after that we we raffle one more mission where the raffle BS we onle no we'll start the fourth raffle after this looks like you got a little sir buttthe head no that's he's way more innocent sounding Manus there there's a longing to that unnamed soldier who greets you every single time all he wants you to do acknowledge his presence the D care class communication ship chos do Na One permanently off the airway sir excellent

382. 05:23:54

     that's going to their intelligence reports do cats have intelligence reports next we set our sights on a fraly sir took her down never read you had 11 recorded kills Maverick honestly you've done better Spirit didn't toast any kill Ry Spirit you're fired all right take it easy for a while both of F hey MAV bars closed the col need every pilot and briefing right away well that was easy writing all right I remember actually being one more see what the pilots had missions and then

383. 05:24:44

     they just didn't say anything it's not the only reward for beating the mission but it's part of it the wingman suck so bad in this game because Ben doesn't let them off their leash no did oh God holy crap okay uh you're going to go before Ben makes you play it no no I believe in Ben this is the famous uh gavar um there's a lot of Fighters there just throws so many fighters at you one of the worst Parts about it is even if you're doing well um there's a glitch in the game that just sometimes kills spirit for the sheare hell of it I think we're okay because we didn't do the

384. 05:25:31

     transfer uh it's an overflow bug and so because we didn't do character transfer ah we didn't carry over we okay there is a patch we can you can use a save game editor to fix that if that were if that does happen but good cuz that sucks I think we're okay there was no no real way to fix it back then yeah yeah yeah exactly 19991 not screwed going guys yeah now we just patch it but back in the day you do a raptor what that you have to do

385. 05:26:22

     miss a raptor yeah probably your best option anyway when when did Wing commer start giving you choices of ships three three or if you want to get really technical probably Privateer yeah I mean Armada Doo question Academy Academy that's it question for Chris Reed what Wing Commander one Community mods do you recommend oh there are new ones wi Commander one Community mods oh I have all kinds of thoughts on this matter so Stinger makes something called uh WC DX which is a Kil Ry Saga enhancement patch and um if he were if he's listening right now he would tell us

386. 05:27:09

     that we're not quite looking at this in the right aspect ratio and his patch fixes that if you've got the kathi Saga version um and makes other um it fixes a number of bugs um Kathy Saga was highly sought after but it introduced some new bugs some of the damage didn't work right some of the backgrounds weren't there correctly fixes a lot of that so a very good patch to go after um there's a very cool patch or mod um that some people have made where they have um taken the um there's an extra set of expansion there's a third SEC set of secret missions that takes place right after secret missions 1 before secret missions 2 that's only available in super Wing Commander which was the Macintosh and 3dio Port some

387. 05:27:58

     people extracted the mission criteria and text and dialogue from that and then backported it into into like secret missions 2 EX secret missions 2 is executable so it's um there's I don't know that they um work 100% of The Kinks out but uh very cool way to experience that if for whatever reason you don't um you can't get a 3DO and don't have a Mac an older Mac that can run super wi Commander yeah unfortunately there's not a great emulation scene for pre- inel Macs uh Commander Tak some work yeah I've got a power Max 300 at home I use for it which is uh a bit extreme and um you unfortunately there's not a ton of wi Commander one and two

388. 05:28:46

     mods you know like we've mentioned earlier it's just something that was kind of ahead of its time and that that scene wasn't really there um H and HCL uh Mario burrito expert wi Commander modder he's got a few um like oneoff missions and ship swaps so I think you can get a fet import a fet into the wi Commander one engine Hellcat yeah it looks really cool yeah and he's working on that he's working on a wing Commander Academy mod which is kind of win Commander 2 engine and working on getting um Hellcat and several later ships like a like a manta I think from prophecy and some things and get them in the wink matter 2 engine it's very cool so um is there is there a reason to play the Mac version of super wiand if

389. 05:29:34

     you have the 3dio uh Max Mac you know controller better they're they're very very similar when you when you developed on for 3o you buil it was the wasn't was a lot of interesting stuff but the game continu like machine gun hose I kind of really missed was cont o sport 3 and prophecy brought that back to a certain extent but I still kind of like the old way yeah that was a difference between private one and two feel of the guns elvo yeah yeah we're still in the first wave Fighters yeah I think this throws like right off the bat four graa and four JY

390. 05:30:23

     at you like before you even get to the main party here graa are the worst they're just maneuverable enough to make you shoot off all of their armor facings before they go down it takes such a long time sometimes mhm although you got his shield generator so that makes this easier yeah I like that and the when you when you damage ships not just yours but the enemies certain systems will go down and these things aren't just a pile of hit points and armor yeah I really like it when you manage to shoot a couple of guns off the enemy ships or you take the unders Shield generator and it um it wasn't just ahead of its time it's something that other things just are lazy and don't

391. 05:31:12

     do I like your gun loadout two neutrons and a and or One Neutron and two Mass drivers yeah makes nice yeah yep you could start like this I love it another thing about Privateer right selectively pick your which guns to arm yeah at least by the gun type I I think um if you wanted to select different things you couldn't just load for tacons right you would but you could if you had for different guns selected yeah that sounds right and it's like I wish you jerks would stop talking so I can concentrate well when we were watching the last one and also as I stand here watching I can't believe that you are able to talk at all while doing this sometimes I'm I'm find myself speechless just watching you play and I can't imagine playing myself and talking

392. 05:32:04

     commentary I think we said that at the other stream too um they pointed out uh the thing about streamers is that they can talk and play at the same time and they get used to that and I just so I never got whether the cats are wearing helmets mild after cats they're ears yeah but I mean we we don't make giant human looking helmets to wear they're very proud of who they are just be glad they don't have a big tail extension on their Battle Suits I'm proud of who I am and he don't wear his face with shirt silver ball

393. 05:33:11

     save yeah that's hard this Mission has at least two extremely hard Parts this would be the first of them how long are we going to be here uh a while do you need us to CL oh they can go back we could take a break and let them

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     back in at some point yeah yeah we we can we can let them back if nothing else we could you know like take a dinner break or something cuz this is yeah I would that long to back this room yeah that was actually a really good start Ben nailed one of the rap heres in the first head on pass yeah there's five of them however four is better than five it's not like he paid a price to take out that first one either just like you said Spirit really glad she got this long message out before she I am very proud of my ancest honor I don't know what

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     she the Raper is better or worse than the graa they got lighter guns probably lighter armor uh lighter armor let's see lighter armor lighter gun the grth are actually harder than rapers yeah other than the psycholog they're slower they're slower they're less maneuverable but I mean even the dapor is supposed to have really good Shields and the K that has twice as much practically to do you like to do this one shot well you know what we got it if we let any one of us get too tired we'll never get P yeah let's rotate off for this one if you get shut someone all right is this it3 yes yeah that's how okay I don't have this memorized I don't think this is it this is an

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     asteroid Patrol we already did this uh I think they probably too invol this will be a long enough night without replaying anything we actually beat where is it well it can only be so many right it's two 93s look like there are two no that's the one again we're doing what sir we're reloading sir that's what we're doing thank Windows

397. 05:36:43

     key okay one on the left okay first second I was afraid to didn't save it you have two your hand three I hope to last at least that long w

398. 05:38:09

     too much you're still good it's long Mission but not doing too Close guess

399. 05:39:00

     what we got any guesss what suppos gu looks like it's getting a little toasty out there sir oh there's a whole lot

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     of dinosaurs in ch dinosaur what's going on with that many dinosaurs in sh crap that

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     sucked indeed m y

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     o better oh that sucked mostly out of fuel mostly

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     that's fuel objective reached that's a tough ship but it it's not really putting up a fight no it's not I I remember this

404. 05:44:19

     about the GRE it just doesn't put up any black at all you can almost just stop I spring okay I've taken some hits here and spirit's not here anymore what the hell that's not making this any easier yeah are you saying you CR do it bet you CR bet you cran I bet you cran how you doing uh well made cast blar and now it's for and now I'm I'm being oh it's those torture prants at end I can really use some countermeasures why don't we have

405. 05:45:06

     countermeasures again all right nice you can't do it really worried about having feel to get through these games of Fighters it's much more clear in the secret missions much more so than the original that fu yeah I mean Shields regenerate but and you know say armor doesn't

406. 05:45:52

     regenerate fields to it's like your field doesn't regenerate either Jer Dro Miss right in my face oh how much is

407. 05:48:09

     left is that it no love this mission that was it maybe they forgot to spawn but I'll take it really that's fantastic this is the clicker for the cake no okay don't know you'll Tim end okay oo that was awesome congratulations that was great you probably got 20 plus kills then yeah it's like that yeah there is five ways of Fighters nice job toast that's what it takes to get out of this system you've earned your butter today so in the uh Super Nintendo version they didn't have the memory to have the exiter for one Mission so they

408. 05:48:56

     have the uh Venture they the uh the wiar is an exitor or no Venture which somehow also has rapers another problem problematic thing about the gavar is that it somehow is a full compliment of rapers the fighter that the Federation just introduced in the last game even though it was captured years ago and there are leftovers were later and the oddest thing about it is that they in the the game likes to insist that the various exors there gavar is B by humans being forced to fight being forced to fight yeah even though the the faces that when the rap your insult you are kill Ry 222 nice man if that's not all I think that's all of them Spirit didn't

409. 05:49:47

     toast any killer R well of course not they had my name written all over them have you guys seen it Sandy unboxed and she she unpacked everything yes think it's amazing we're playing video games all day s's working look all that stuff has been there for 2 weeks nobody's and he did it all in one afternoon oh yeah that's that's my notepad there is this yours mhm yeah he uses that bag as a carry on some pictures yeah those are mine personally taking them back with me they want stay there we'll take them home yeah I brought them in for the live

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     that seems like more than a bronze star I know right Captain BL like that is definitely a large metal cheeseburger I don't care what what you definitely ear the large yes let toast away the large burger what should we what should what should we wle um it's a destroyer but that would not be good rapple a burger yeah we just destroyed a d I think that's worth than Aurora es um yeah my mind is blank oh what's appropriate for this filled with pride you meet

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     your Ra's not going yet guys we haven't even said what it is yet yeah yeah yeah mukes hang on looking at my list here it's better through this one that was my a performance of the night I don't think I've got another one of in how about it's a very different Mission from kurasawa 2 though yeah yeah they're both hard how about a but I'd say they're they're I wouldn't say one's easier than the other sheon Scout all right all right we're going to Ravel

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     off a Shon Scout hold on let me push the button hey I have the large V cheeseburger all right the raffle is open for a Shon Scout rewarded for that do your your your your raffle for a Shon Scout and maybe you'll win a Shon SC good to see you again lad listen to us all a favor would you stop stealing your Lucky Charms a lot of the pilots have been hearing that we lost the kathi fleet they're expecting us to turn tail and run back to the town in space his Mage is terrible some of them are tickled pink about it tickles think about it

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     some of them are thinking about ping gun against the chin and pulling what you jeez that got dark what the heck Chris I mean we're progressing through this I we're succeeding we've beaten other the missions you're like yeah your fellow Pilots are talking about you know just eating a bullet so if anyone ask you this is what you should tell them don't need a bullet this operation isn't over we haven't lost it yet what mission are we on now uh we should be on bifrost 1 I believe yep what number is that n or

414. 05:53:56

     10 so we're not even a thir third the way never believe that old story anyhow you heard latest any one of those books just Happ I'm just counting my fing we fly all this way in for what there's no way we can run turn back now better find those cats kill them and get out of here fast or will be as dead as my cousin and the rest of the colge I'm got it there's an expression you don't normally hear you're going to be as dead as my cousin that's that's a I've heard it to go along with what was what we decided last night we're going to start using uh denim like Jeans denim like a jeans yes stand him like a jean and the one around Robin Hood's Barn which think a real expression all around Robin Hood's Barn yeah Pilots we've Trail our Target

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     to this system oh this is you we're not sure the location of the kic fleet the fleet is probably going to CER reinforcements probably fry destroy your escorts too froy with additional heavy ships if they know where to catch us right we reduce the Tiger Claw to Molten slag personally I prefer not to command a slagged ship well if you get a choice yeah there's your command so we're going to have to launch an attack on them very soon we don't know exactly where they are but we do have some good data the ships in the strike Fleet were designed to be fast and maneuverable which means they aren't carrying much fuel that means they're probably headed towards any guess's Pilots Mueller also

416. 05:55:36

     Li you folks sir that was a rhetorical question Blair we just do on that gu maver that's where we think that Fleet is headed yeah we're going to get the Supply Depot first and take it out you're going to fly scouting missions with the information you'll bring back we should be able to locate the supply dep they can vacuum this is a good time they want to vacuum this is a good time SC should use yeah don't worry about yeah come on in vacuum it's good time for it let your mission flight plans Engage The Enemy if you can we back out from overwhelming opposition we need the information more than we need a few dead heroes we're all stocked up on dead heroes here simp register as a blue Target don't we can update your

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     targetting computers that seems like a big software flaw that should have been a blocker also housian talks way more in this than he did in the first Wing Commander way more more swing will be Maverick and Paladin with Maverick is leader dismissed yes the raffle for a Shion Scout from Star Citizen is going now now is the time to raffle up please remember if you raffle more than once it makes no difference we a one time leave chat for your fellow chatz now we're in a

418. 05:57:16

     raptor still in a raptor raptor is Good Ship yeah but I've been confusing it for rapor a whole time so to me it's different that I got it right is different paper is the one that are crackit the end yes that's why I keep thinking about that's why I keep oh Paladin thank you wingman thank you what you covering lad really pal you they caught me with my Kilt down all down this is also there is literally no reason to ever bring your kilt down that defeats the purpose of a kilt you should never be hanging around

419. 05:58:05

     with your kilt down down the Kil goes down to come off that's it under every other situation your kilt can function as it normally does you do not need to pull it down to anything well Paladin's dead he didn't last one nap me a proper fate for a coward it's not that the wingman get any worse but yeah guys I'm not calibrated per missions with this many enemies yeah the cleaning people are going to be vacuuming for a little bit so you're probably going to want to turn your personal volumes down for a little bit vacuuming will be over momentarily

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     the sound that you are hearing right now is a vacuum cleaner our cleaning crew are currently vacuuming the office You may wish to lower the volume on your personal streams until the vacuuming is done K one of their own oh look it's the karath super

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     weapon and lots of jol quick yes hold on thank you ooh that's frame rate yeah honestly that's the hardest thing about this

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     right now is the IGN Miss y especially since your recharge is apparently independent of so you end up getting close Without fire any oh that one going a broken arm but I've

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     been using would you call that the vacuum of space

424. 06:04:49

     ah but I thought there was no sound face got a clicker from C it's exact the same clicker we have at the apartment is it it's like a clicker from the uh 80s yeah m

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     the cop goes my kill now Lando do you and Ben ever play Axis and allies no I have played axis and allies though and I I haven't played it in years but it's a great game I don't have a copyright now occasionally we make plans to play xwe Miniatures was no I did it again survive slightly longer this time I am a cat wearing a cat helmet uh what mini list do I run uh it

426. 06:08:01

     depends on what faction I'm playing I'm I've been experimenting with with uh with Dash renar and the outrider lately though I really like that's crazy Dash is absolutely crazy you can cover the whole board faster than anything I'm really enjoying that haven't found a scum faction fild I'm I'm super happy with yet uh but we but uh my friends here just ordered some new ships for the scum faction so might break that open yes we thought Lando deserved a reward for coming in and doing this even though he was in terrible pain at first we were like oh let's get some pizza I like then it turned out he can't eat food so we fig oh let's get some miniature Starships yes we're quite happy to be paid in either I don't know if dash

427. 06:08:49

     renar dash render is not in the new Cannon yet but the outrider is in the cannon it was it was in the special edition of star of a new hope so or at least a ship like it the YT 2400 is canon they haven't done anything with the between Empire and Jedi period the new Cannon yet as much as I love shadows of the Empire and I do I I Adore every aspect of Shadows of the Empire I can't imagine Disney will turn down the opportunity to do a whole new slew of stories in that period so it doesn't get them anything to keep Shadows of the empire so I just hope that whatever they

428. 06:09:37

     replace it with is just as cool I just wish they'd re-release the game hey why isn't there a dog of that was it available in PC I didn't think uh Rogue Squadron was available on PC and they got that I played Rog Squadron on the N64 I was surprised to see it go there was a PC Port of uh that one of Shadows no uh no I did not know there's a Halo spaceship Miniatures game I've only got room in my heart for one Miniatures game Thon was good I I I'm not on

429. 06:10:27

     his not as on the Thon badwagon as a lot of people are I enjoyed Thon you know he he has that he had that distinction of being first in the new but would I enjoy it if they introduced Grand Admiral Thon in a different context than the new Canon sure that six gel again it's it's too easy money you hire Tim Theon he gets to write the new story of Admiral Thon come on to th not just to improve frame

430. 06:11:14

     r b this person says there's the show of the empire for the PC I play on the4 I play on 64 I love the score to that you know the C uh Joel McNeely is an unsung hero of Star Wars you know first person who has to make Star Wars music not John Williams he did a great job with the soundtrack to Shadows the Empire and he

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     was the first to add a Gaelic chorus to Star Wars which two years later three years later John Williams turns around and uses for dual the fates so give one a shot oh okay Joel M Joel mcne the Shadows of the Empire ship limit to the number of things he can throw at you in one Mission uh yeah but it's like 30 uh probably 32 huh well the claw and you are and your wingman are almost three of them so how bad could it be five BR one five one yeah technically

432. 06:12:58

     you don't have to fight those jol just run away is what he orders you to do yeah yeah Gog just had a big star war p uh Star Wars PC game blowout the other day uh had both things didn't have the first Battlefront didn't have Shadows of the Empire but other than that it it was comprehensive I can't think of any other game it was missing okay is cig doing a live stream this

433. 06:14:05

     year why yes we are on December 16th at 11:00 a.m. Pacific 1900 that's 7 p.m. UTC what's the other one they call it UTC it was that or grench meantime GMT UTC what used to be grenwich meantime but that recently they made it universal time something so that it didn't have to be Grant so it wasn't UK Centric UTC is the more commonly accepted now but GMT is the old way so a lot of people are still hanging on to GMT the same way we hang on to the love to change the same way we don't we hang on and don't accept the metric system here it's hard to change people's minds

434. 06:14:53

     about things you get used to what you get used to does cig like puppies they're okay I I like I like puppies right up to the point where they poop yeah dog poop is I hate dog poop so much it's I it's just you buy a cat you get a kitten you get a kitten you don't have to train that thing kitten just you just put the box down the kitten's going to do a once over the entire uh the entire living living situation and it's going to poop in the Box dogs you go through weeks months yeah you wonder if you're being too harsh it

435. 06:15:41

     it's it's poty training a dog is so this why you got mobile infantry instead of yep I have a 9month old Happ on dog I'm Ming oh yeah I mean that it's like like uh corgis or or or um uh like Terriers Terriers are beautiful dogs they're hypoallergenic you know so so it's great for people with allergies and stuff cuz they have like hair as opposed to fur but try teaching a terrier to poop where it's supposed man then again I had a cat that used to sleep in the

436. 06:16:28

     toilet so yeah I'd wake up in the morning I i' get up and I hear this splashing cuz the cat would realize I was was awake and he'd jump out of the toilet before I could see him I'd go into the restroom and there just be water everywhere and this floating raft of cat hair in my toilet I don't know if that's better than dog he never peed or pooped in it he he slept in the toilet I don't know if he slept I never caught him while he was in there cuz the minute I came around the corner he'd bail but he at least chilled out in toilet and then of course he's tracking toilet water over my entire apartment that toilet water is not not good yeah I learned to put the toilet lid down that wouldn't do it yep and it was

437. 06:17:19

     it was horrible because you other people would come by and they'd leave the toilet lit up and I'm like where's the cat I go cat I hear splashing I'm like gosh yeah so I would close the toilet LD but whenever other people wouldn't close the toilet LD he chill in the toilet that's the strangest thing where were you living at the time Inland Empire it was the same place I I was living at right before I moved in here okay it can get hot but not that hot oh no it it would never got hot in my apartment hottest my my apartment ran at air conditioner 24/7 hottest my apartment ever got was 68° had nothing to do with heat every once in a while you're reminded that EA animals can do to weird personalities just

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     like his name was lwood but he never responded to it so I just called him cat it was shorter that by itself isn't unusual no but I me it wasn't the worst Ram he didn't rip off all I'd come home and like hey Cat he'd come running cat cat I mean his name on his little thing was lwood he never he never learned to respond to it he did learn to respond to cat though oh yeah I miss that was the cat that disappeared the weak of Citizen con last year never did find nope you didn't tell was really I call

439. 06:19:03

     Cat cat this we didn't tell you that that was a good cat people really want me to give away a ship Chris you going to do this or what I can't give away a ship unless you beat this that's the rules we getting there everybody I want you to clear your thoughts and think only positive positive feelings towards the our traveler

440. 06:19:52

     here will him to succeed don't let us out on internet you only exist we're in an area of space where thoughts become reality and our traveler needs your help to get us home Captain I have a question about this area of space where thoughts become reality I guess it's more of a comment stupid I'm not going to tell you how many ships there are left to raffle we're we're buying your views I'm not going to let you know when you're off

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     hook the only reason you're watching is because of the raffle then I'm keeping you on the hook or you can go to WC news.com and research the mission tree for secret one and then calculate your odds this mission is the two yes enler I was paraphrasing where no man has gone before an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation that's not a Twilight Zone episode the one where the traveler and and and kazinsky experiment they send the Enterprise to the area space where their thoughts become reality but card has tea with his with his

442. 06:21:28

     Mima okay I that one now it's not one I rewatch often no it's not one anyone rewatches is there anyone in the world for whom that is their favorite episode uh maybe uh entirely possible favorite go favorite Star Trek episodes per series or across the entire per series per series famous I'm sorry what did you say first Ser right uh for Next Generation starting in Next Generation okay no no no no okay for the original series my favorite episode is balance of teror yep we agree on that one for sure for I would say mirror mirror I really that's an acceptable Choice it is

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     an absolutely acceptable choice but balance of Terror is just it's it's oh so good uh for Next Generation Um I know it's really popular to say in light you know it's a good episode it's a great episode I'm not going to say it's not a great episode my brother gave me a repli for Christmas one year fantastic um yeah the problem is there aren't there really aren't a lot of just my my my my my favorite TNG episode is chain of command and technically it's part one and two but it's chain of command I don't know if that's cheating because you get twice as much story in there but it is my favorite storyline from uh from uh I I with the family for T's pretty

444. 06:24:20

     yeah hey can you guys hear us can oh uh there's a 30 second delay so you have to let us if you let us know if you can hear us you're you're right get yeah yes what can you hear us okay still do one of those things we joggle uh Chris hit a thing and we have to shut everything down you can't add a device in the middle of the stream that messes everything up so we had to stop the stream and start it back up again so let's go back to the game play go back to there and you're back up okay we're still I like um well I mean in light was already mentioned I also really like doesn't interrupt the raffle guys it still goes like 130 what sure I can do 130

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     145 okay you just text me if you change your mind I think I'll only be here I I don't want to be I don't like it when it get start to come stay with you they mostly come out at night mostly they did it yes awesome woo yeah the goodness keyboard Warrior yeah but but but yeah for it's chain of command if I have to pick one episode like one part uh conspiracy in the first season the end of theultimate episode ofir yeah I love conspiracy the conspiracy had so much promise that was never delivered on oh you need me to click yeah oh I like the baron sweep episode

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     for some reason yeah die hearts yes uh that wasun favorite episode of Deep Space 9 is easy visitor it is not the visitor uh 14 hey tomorrow 145 favorite episode deep 9 is in the pale Moonlight easily hands down in the pale Moonlight this was just our ID Mission yes it was uh the odd thing about in the night is it's so good another name I know it's a rip Batman it's a Batman 89 reference for no reason whatsoever sloppy work a good yeah the V the visitor the visitor is really good be but only because Tony Todd comes in and makes Jake Cisco a worthwhile character for one episode I

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     sobb like a baby when you see that episode yes it it's just how terrible is it to play a character for all these years then have a different actor come in and smash that character for just smashing like oh that's what this character can be so I I love Tony Todd so um in the best episode of Voyager easily hands down is the warp speed salamander babies I knew you were going to see that threshold threshold warp speed salamander babies Jane way and Paris turn into salamanders go down to planet make some salamander babies then leave them behind best episode of Voyager ever

448. 06:27:38

     absolutely Voyager is tougher to pick one I mean probably year hell or yeah it's year in Hell the best episode of Voyager is year in hell but also the there's some good holidic ones the uh the I don't remember the name but the one where Tom Paris say fights Dr s's robot yes oh yeah all all of the the cheesy flashh Gordon rip off episodes were good chaotica right a chaotica and stuff uh um but yeah now actually one of my favorite episodes of of Voyager was the one where uh 709s implant malfunction and all these alternate personalities of people that she had assimilated had came out and you find out wow she's actually a pretty talented actress it is a good one it is it's a really good one but yeah the best episode of Voyager overall is probably year and year year of hell

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     are the one with the Doctor's Family oh that's a good one too any you never went wrong with a doctor episode I mean every time Voyager came on like when it was airing you always prayed for a doctor episode and and if you were lucky a doctor 7 of9 episode yeah if you get a doctor a doctor 7 of9 episode what's that you did fine speech voic we've got two two lady voices coming up and the best episode of Enterprise was the the best episode of Enterprise was the first one before you realized what the show actually was we got through it Broken Arrow oh good are you saying good Enterprise I said the best episode of Enterprise was the very first one before it had disappointed you U I liked uh First Flight yeah all right the one

450. 06:29:18

     where Reed comes up with the read alert for hide and sensus emergency status and I honestly think that season 3 of Enterprise yes probably going to look back on that someday as the most reasonable response to 911 absolutely the the the the whole third season of of Enterprise where they're trying to beat the zindy and that episode where Archer runs into they lose their warp coil and they they run into another ship and they they can they can steal their warp coil but strand them and they figure out that they're becoming worse people because of their anger and they become the Star Trek car and the only problem with that is how it ended that idiotic CL hanger oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the fourth the whole entire fourth season of Enterprise was fanfiction it was like got service yeah it it was that they got every

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     everybody that ever written fan fiction on the inside of their TR why am I doing this is like oh hold on we got we got to pull we got to draw the raffle oh okay and draw the raffle guys then we'll deal with Spirits depression yeah you you you you if you could please put your depression on hold all right at some point in the next two weeks I'm going to I'm going to end the conversation then we'll deal with Spirits depression all right so the winner of the Shion Scout from Star is Disco land Cosmic Tony Cosmic Tony congratulations you're the winner of the Shion Scout from Star Citizen please send a private message to our cig

452. 06:30:55

     Community Twitch account with your email address that's registered on your star Sy account and we will award you a Shon scout next week if for any reason you do do not have a star account you can go to robertsspaceindustries.com register yourself an account then send us the email you use to register that account and then next week we will give you a Shon Scout watch it turn out that it's Tony Todd are you jisco all right let's talk to spear and figure out why she's depressed okay major Blair have you come here to cheer up the colel thinks I am depressed it is not so we live in uncertain times and I have always known that death walks beside each other God damn it what if you destroy the kill the fleet and their

453. 06:31:43

     secret weapons I will celebrate oh my God it would have been amazing to have Sandy read this I will get very drunk and swear quite loudly yeah that's Sandy for you for an hour or two oh we missed we missed opportunity or maybe not what if my fiance were here to learn of such Behavior yes there are two opinions about which Star Trek series is overall is the best there's the people that think it's deep St 9 and there's the people that are wrong hello M sit down I was just reviewing tactics for attacking Capital ships valari froy or Star basis it's all same if there are Defenders take them out first if possible use only your guns on

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     defend as opposed to say your off for the primary target you leave them know uh in fact no uh no you will not try it the other way around and the Defenders will leave you alive no you yeah their advice for take Capital ships is always terrible I mean they're right about taking out the Fighters first as long as he's not a also does Angel have giant Pez for earrings in case she gets hungry later I did Angel gets peckish and she eats one of her Pez she has those same earrings all the way through we command 3 I believe unless she had those earrings in we Commander 3 I think so she's going to these to you know what I have a got a pinup of angel on my check of course you do will the stream be uploaded on

455. 06:33:23

     YouTube yes although it's going to be in several parts now because of our things so I got to combine it so it's going to take a little bit longer but yes it will eventually end up on YouTube H we're taking a star post out in a scimitar why are you looking at me H yes argue about Deep Space 9 versus Generation good the last time so I do have picture there's a phrase that's never been said in the history of human civilization I do have a picture of Angel but you can't see her ears you asked about her ears

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     the same one and two and I'm thinking she has similar R 3 but see it there Babylon 5 you are talking about lond malari ah yes jakar my old friend is good good to see you again I am Londo malari is good I mean I really babyon five is very good it was of its time I can't do it I can't do the voice right now my voice is uh pretty trash at this point if I work at it I can do a jar Andre cat though was a just he was

457. 06:35:04

     so good yeah he was so good those two characters I me serious even if I didn't enjoy the rest of the series what a curse on that show though hey can can I can I ban people that don't like d sign um this is not an official stream it is our officials team well we're off the official clock um I could do bester I'd have to I I haven't seen I haven't seen uh babyon 5 in quite a few years I I'd want to I'd want to uh refresher before I tried to do F running away Londo is always close

458. 06:35:53

     to my heart most likely things salie can do according to AI is run when it takes a little damage the only time I can't do aond is when I haven't been a I haven't slept in 2 days and I'm dying inside otherwise I can do a pretty decent L yeah I watch sliders for John rise Davies and later k were the first season of Sliders is fine once car war is there it's worthless no it's it's not worthless it it had it had a value alert yeah that show had a value uh the last sliders I watch we try to watch like random Christmas episodes of things every year we watched the sliders Christmas episode last year where they slide to a world where

459. 06:36:41

     everybody is in the mall all the time it was the most 9s concept and uh my brother's Fred what's her name from d space 9 uh Chase Masterson Chase Masterson is the m employee did I credit mloy actually that Westwood tribute during the game awards made me want to break out Red Alert play Red Alert Red Alert 2 and Red Alert 3 like the reality where Cosmic Tony Todd won the last rattle uh one and two are very very very good games yeah you know who uh is a red alert fan surprisingly

460. 06:37:30

     I say that say it okay cuz you've told me story before I just trying to remember what her name was yeah Franchesca who's our HR our HR person she uh apparently grew up playing Red Alert with her brothers you told me that when you first started y I like dreed Alert 3 it wasn't terrible it wasn't the sequel that rert 1 and two deserved but the thing I remember about rert 3 is that it had Co-op play I'm a sucker for Co-Op play I'm a suck you put co-op in anything and I'm sucker I much prefer playing with people than against people I'm a joiner not a divider so Red Alert 3 was a was a free pass for me because I had Coop play I mostly Miss alert I do remember

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     that hel Mar made very good work lat I did the wer music also the Primitive cut scen in the first where Einstein kills Hitler yes so good of course I ins say would kill Hill I never played alone in the dark I had a I had a neighbor who did though I didn't either it's one of the few old games I hav bought on G for that reason nothing is up for raffle now you're just enjoying our entertainment presents yeah we're diring out Chris is some butt and I get to come in tomorrow to let send in let me know you should give Alexis a

462. 06:39:07

     day you got a day today yeah I mean with you would you when I with me day no but she likes you for some reason yeah I still figure that out we'll do another raffle it'll come when it does I think there's going to be at least three more yeah it would hurt our feelings if that were the only reason were here yes I I don't tell them ahead of time cuz I want them to watch hold the if that's the only reason you're watching I'm sorry yeah hold you captive we back in a cetar yeah yep doing the citar thing doing this yeah

463. 06:39:59

     freaking citar hit my shield generator why are we back in a citar cuz they're torturing us Raptors are under being repaired if people haven't figured out secret missions what is to torture us it's like we'll just sell the same game again if they're Ste enough to buy it um no this mission in particular by Frost 2 is uh it's the last mission of the ruing commander one but in a simitar and with paled instead of Hunter I can give it a shot and when I die toast can give it a shot how's that bring back the Destroyer Lesnik I'll give it a shot rotation is how we'll get through this dra home to our family somay disco would you say you're sorry

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     but the Empire got there first and made a deal that would secure the safety of scad City for years to come yes you this a thing that kind of sets me off sometimes everybody's talking about how how how Lando betrayed his friend Lando did not betray his friend Lando took responsibility for an entire floating city in the clouds Darth Vader shows up with a star destroyer and can just wipe everybody out you know you don't got Force Powers you can't stand up to Darth Vader you got to buy your time you can't just go head on against Darth Vader and a star destroyer for the people so Lando did the smart play he saved the lives of everybody on that City you know and and he knew knew he wanted and carbon free and whatnot so so L's the only character

465. 06:41:37

     in Star Wars that has hard choices you know and that's one of the reasons I fell in love with him as a child so he did the right thing he didn't betray anybody he he did what a upstanding moral human being would do and then when Darth Vader you know screwed everybody over you know Le and Chewbacca are too busy trying to kill Lando and it's Lando that's telling them hey idiots there's still time to save hand you know stop messing with me because you can't understand you know the intricacies of real life there's still a chance to save hen by the way and then when they're on the way he's got Darth now now you know he's betrayed Darth Vader Darth Vader's going to send the entirety of the Empire down on him Lando's got to get out of there does he

466. 06:42:25

     just bolt no he takes the time to warn the people of cloud city says hey you know what crap hit the fan things are unsafe right now you need to get to safety you know that was precious time that he could have been captured he took that time to warn the people of cloud city and then left and didn't even have didn't even take the time to pack a back he had to get away from Cloud City to keep these people safe and that's why at the end of the movie he's wearing hans's clothes he didn't have time to pack a back gave up everything gave up everything he owned everything that was his to save the people of cloud city maybe they are h they maybe they are L clothes and Han has just been stealing his look all this time like he took his ship he like oh man that Lando guy he's got a cool idea about wearing vests yeah

467. 06:43:15

     yeah Lando's the only person in the original trilogy that has to make real adult decisions even Luke you know Yoda's trying to tell him you know don't make don't make that decision you're going to get everybody screwed and look like no I'm a petulent kid I want to do whatever I would say that Leia being tortured and not giving away the Rebellion is a hard Choice yes no no okay fair enough fair enough Leia is pretty badass that was forry father K kill Paladin's father did we know this I'm pretty sure he died of a disease I have no idea I think he died of the tm33 virus yeah also you while we're talking about about about this

468. 06:44:05

     Luke takes a snub fighter into an open a trench in a straight line that he can leave and come back and leave and come back multiple times which he does and then uses the force a mystical energy field that the Galaxy provides to destroy the Death Star oh and he's got his ass saved by his by by by bigs by wedge and by Han in three separate occasions Lando takes a frighter into an enclosed tunnel with twists and turns and destroys his death star without the force who's a better pilot Luke or Lando

469. 06:44:54

     Lando's the best pilot in Star Wars I know what about Arvin kred oh my God damn it I hate you so much lant's the best pilot in Star Wars know he he had help but he wasn't saved by the other ones Luke had help too it's it's a group beer don't get me wrong wedge is the only person that could paint two death stars in the side of his x one that that's no small feet and also Atlanta's Atlanta's got to take a freighter through an enclosed tunnel with twist and turns and he's going to do it with back seat drivers and Admiral abar in his ear telling everybody to run land best character in Star

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     Wars because I'm playing at toast because he's my back he's the backseat driver he's the person minus right now look there twitch I didn't know that no I'm not going to do my Boba Fett breakdown right now if you don't know why Boba Fett is terrible already didn't you do that for Chris the day didn't he agree that oh yeah yeah no well while Chris while Chris was here playing with my family fasma see my family fasma mhm my family fasma Chris was here playing with my action figures and we were talking about how terrible Boba was uh gar that's the old address we're

471. 06:46:47

     not on Third Street anymore we're on Exposition Boulevard is here looking for us on internet a different location parking is a little harder well it's different and there is one restaurant nearby just one restaurant actually there that Diner too isn't it it's like five blocks away we haven't been there yet there's a couple restaurants but they're all scary and weird all yes f is Terri you you you want to do this you guys want to do this you got time Boba Fett Boba Fett let's look at his contribution to the trilogy no EU the eu's been wiped out people it doesn't exist anymore so let's look at Boba

472. 06:47:35

     Fett's contributions within star the actual real Star Wars cannon in A New Hope special edition he literally walks on a screen and walks off okay Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader Darth Vader assembles a group of of bounty hunters now in bounty hunters in in bounty hunting there's one absolutely unavoidable unassailable universal truth to all bounty hunting this isn't just for Star Wars this is bounty hunting in general you have to verification you have to be able to prove that You' captured this person or if it's a Wanted Dead Or aive thing you've killed this person you bring back their head their hand whatever you have

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     to have proof so so Boba Fett is so bad at his job that while Darth Vader is going through and telling all the bounty hunters you know what's up he has to make a special point to tell Boba Fett no disintegrations because this is a dumbass so terrible he disintegrates his targets oh well did you really kill him how can you prove it you disintegrated him maybe he didn't maybe he didn't disintegrate them maybe he couldn't find them he let they ran he just told people he disintegrated them he's terrible as job so then he says go out and find the Millennium Falcon so everybody you know IG 88 and BOS and dengar they get in their ships and they fly away Boba Fett has trouble starting a slave one everybody else has left he's still

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     hanging around the milon Falcon detaches floats away with the garbage and Boba Fett sees him okay does Boba Fett capture the million Falcon no you know cuz that's what a bounty hunter would do but bua Fett's not like other bounty hunters I good bua Fett looks at their trajectory realizes they're going to Cloud City then reports it to Vader Vader with his Star Destroyer having greater mass and therefore being able to travel through light speed faster gets to Cloud City first and Vader arranges the capture of Han Solo Boba Fett literally does nothing he happens to see where the M F's going and says oh should I go capture them uh uh uh no I'll just let Darth Vader go capture so Darth Vader

475. 06:49:57

     captures B fat the whole time he's sitting there holding his stupid rifle like it's his blue blanket lonus and the penis here do I get Han Solo what if what if he dies and B's like dude seriously I'll pay you I'll pay you if he dies just just stop whining he literally does nothing the entire movie and then at the end you know with it was Vader hands him Han Solo in a block and Boba Fett becomes an overg glorified FedEx B Fett is a FedEx it's not a bounty H her he gets to Javas Palace deliver Han Sol to Jabba's Palace and then it's like what else what else is there to do nobody will hire Boba Fett nobody will hire because he disintegrates his targets if he really does capture them

476. 06:50:45

     at all and and doesn't capture people at all he gets other people to do it when gets his gets his client to do it he's terrible so he's literally a year later he's still hanging around jabis palace with nothing to do because he's so bad and then you know crap starts blowing up in in uh at Jabba's Palace you know Luke gets free you know the you know R2 shoots his lightsaber up all right crap's going down Boba Fett is faced with Luke Skywalker holy crap that's a Jedi I see a Jedi I've seen a lightsaber that's a lightsaber this lightsaber can cut through anything in the world so what am I going to do oh that's right I'm a dumbass I'm going to shoot rope at him B Fett shoots rope at the guy holding a

477. 06:51:33

     lightsaber look at the look on Luke's face when he gets Tangled Up in a rope it's just disgust he's like oh this is the garbage I have to deal with Boba Fett and then after Luke you know sends him packing he's just running around I don't know what to do he's just jumping back and forth between skips you know what's AA Fett to do when finally he gets defeated by a blind man with a stick on accident a blind man with a stick on accident is what ends the career of Boba Fett because jetpack safety maintenance wasn't wasn't one of the topics at his local Junior College Boba Fett is terrible every single thing you see Boba Fett do in these movies is garbage what issues did Boba Fett have in uh staying

478. 06:52:25

     around and helping J the end anyway he didn't he just couldn't get another job Bounty yeah he he couldn't get another job nobody else would hire him so then we go to the prequels right he just running around he's a little kid blah blah blah you know you know he's a kid you you can't blame a kid for being useless kids are pretty useless so that that's not a strike against Boba Fett except that the guy that he's based on also gets killed by a pretty in a pretty stupid manner by a Mindless charging wilderbeast thing just gets topple topple topple topple topple and M W's like and M W can't believe how easily he killed them by the way he's there with the lightsabers like wow that was that was lot a lot easier than I thought it would be it's like the only thing M Wu does m Wu The the most worthless character in the entire pre prequel trilogy and the only thing he accomplishes is killing Boba Fett senior

479. 06:53:15

     so then you go to the Clone Wars cartoon when Boba Fett shows up again you this is their chance like oh my go they realize that across four movies now Boba Fett is just garbage Boba Fett is just human garbage and terrible as job so we're going to bring him back into clone wars and this is our chance to redeem him no you know what they do they sell Boba Fett off as a child bride to a male gangster I laughed my ass off even the people at Lucas film know how terrible Boba Fett is they sold him off as a child bride to a male gangster Boba Fett's the worst does he have cool armor absolutely Boba Fett's armor is the coolest nobody's taken that away from him but as a character as a hero is someone to emulate is someone to

480. 06:54:05

     idolize no Boba Fett's garbage chat room says don't hold back Lando tell us how you really feel Boba Fett's garbage and that's why Lando is the best character in Star Wars and Boba Fett's the worst oh my God I just remembered something I oh he got school the thoughts on the jar jar being

481. 06:54:57

     said that thing's a silly thing I I didn't think that was a in hindsight you can you can massage all kinds of stuff to create whatever narrative you want I mean everyone from the press to the government it's too easy to create a narrative to interweave a new narrative through past events it's Force Gump yeah we don't know anything doesn't mean Forest Gump actually existed meaningless 68% of people know y yeah the the jar jar is a Sith thing I I I read it I went I smirked and I forgot about it one for the lumber yard it's lumbar I'm losing brain coherency at

482. 06:55:47

     point it's been a long day and it's nowhere near over well it's been we over 23 of the way okay that's not bad it's only 6:00 yeah well let get through buy for us just just five more missions four more after that five five more after this yeah five missions three Pilots we're good yeah back in the day I would play perhaps one mission of secret missions per night yeah I'd buy ET being a Jedi before I'd buy jar jar being a Sith Lord ET was in the Senate

483. 06:56:35

     mhm and many of et's powers that he demonstrated could easily be for sensitive that's true does e ever interact with principal Han Solo what uh no okay cuz that'll ruin syus is amazing yeah yeah that that the in the deleted scene with Harrison for that was that was just Ellie never went to school you don't want to see Lando play Wing Commander this thing will never end well it's never going to end anyway uh my know my brother uh my brother has a fantastic idea for one of those Star Wars sequel films which is the African queen but with Yoda and Han Solo cuz there's no reason why y Yoda can't know

484. 06:57:25

     Han Solo at some point before Star Wars they never interact in the movies you can have like some Adventure where Yoda hires solo to go do something to before uh before New Hope um I watch that movie ah which one of them is Captain he Yoda obviously obviously I I am really curious to see who they're going to cast as the new on SOL Adam Driver why not no we are not playing secret missions 2 also the 25th anniversary of secret missions 2 is in April we will do this again in April yes assuming I get a full

485. 06:58:15

     night's sleep and aren't melting inside I would say secret missions 2 is a little bit easier it's still very very hard but uh got more killer Hornet missions a lot more Aces I think the individual Fighters are probably tougher but the missions themselves are more balanced H the high this compared to Wi command one this very much has the feeling of they didn't want you to so there there's uh we Armada uh now you got to deal with graa this is where I fell down this is where I felt um uh no internal damage well that's going to change no storm troopers are not clones of Boba Fett Storm Troopers are storm troopers clone troopers were clones of Jango Fett but storm Troop troopers were just recruited masses it's

486. 06:59:04

     it's after after Revenge of the Sith the emperor closed down the Clone program because the easiest way to keep your citizenship pacified is to enlist them so Stormtroopers are people like you or me well not me but definitely like you which by the way maybe this is probably a spoiler say I remind me of have a the about F ler what you haven't been attacking all this time Paladin great now Paladin will jeez took him 4 seconds to retreat

487. 07:00:05

     that new Star Wars Uprising game has Purge Troopers they're really annoying they have flamethrowers and shock whips I really like the uh the ri control Troopers yes if you work for hot toys though this is not an invitation to tell me another drone Trooper no if you work for hot toys you defin and you're watching the stream definitely don't want to send us a free Riot trooper that we can promote you're so tired oh not good CR out on the very comfortable C where can you buy secret missions one

488. 07:01:00

     and two you can buy SEC 1 and two at gog.com they're included in the week matter 1 and two package um you know at the end let's RAV off one of those too okay see yeah normally it's $6 get one and two and the four expansions secret missions one and two and Special Operations one for $6 and it goes on sale all the time too and if you for some reason have a PlayStation Portable or a V and are in Europe or want to create a fake European account you can get it as part of EA replay uh which is available for download uh I'm sure you can find EA replays in the US also there there one UMD um that includes wi commander and secet missions that the Super Nintendo Port ported emulated essentially on the

489. 07:01:49

     uh PP yes did you die and I just can't see it you know he retreated oh great like 2 seconds after uh you let him go this is the last wave of Fighters that's like that's like your last PR pleas Let Be yeah don't don't die right now just just take the star poed easy the star po isn't bad just does it even have flat guns yeah it has flat guns it's got some mines but it's just a regular Championship okay Circle and repeat only thing is sometimes it's hard to see what direction front is like you know you're shooting at the back of a froy

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     but I think it's equal Shield at all I love a w burer right now but I don't think that's happening ah yeah your back Shields are pretty weak kidding I think fire a missile at me I didn't know he could do that okay well that was a problem embarassing I played the Battlefront beta as they called it I mean it was fun it looked good I I enjoyed it and then I went what's ultimately the point at this point I I want story at this point my problem with Battlefront is that it's not really a Star Wars game there's no Star Wars where all the rebels fly off

491. 07:03:23

     in jetpacks and it's it's some sci-fi game that's been kind of oh yeah they give you some Minds at the end just is there a campaign yeah no not really I I dislike that strongly they just came out with the new Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six this week same deal it has a fake campaign at least it's got like 10 single player missions they just don't have a story yeah they're like trainers or are they I I think they they they call them training cuz they're like historical situations but I think they're act there's no raffle going on right now guys that is why I like flying citar it's a different experience um it feels like kind of like a Star Wars mod for a Battlefield game yeah mhm which isn't bad if you want a Star Wars mod for a battle for Battlefront was a thing I

492. 07:04:11

     actually worked on a project that was uh it was called winenter mercenaries and it was going to be it was it was basically what became that Battlefield was that battlef game 2042 battle 2042 um something like that um the pitch was like it was supposed to be Grand Theft Auto meet Privateer meets Battlefield uh it didn't go that way report St Wing confirmed toast is a masochist what ran into a lombar now too that tanker is dusted sir and then I headed to that Depot yeah why did they put zitar for the most important it was tough sir one of the toughest missions I ever

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     flown they look down shot that's theatrics Maverick what happened it's his R sir exell maker I know you wouldn't let us down and you nailed 17 of these cats pretty good that's a lot these missions just Paladin came up zero at least he's not dead yeah yeah really that's rare for I did my best sir fighting something fierce out there m I need to see you in my office later yes M there's still another bifrost mission

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     so this Lieutenant Colonel oh no can't remember he's probably I know oh cuz they're moving me back to uh oh because they changed the ships between each by Frost you Pilots really deserve a pat in the back getting that Supply station was what everybody needed if you looked around everyone's more alert Walking Tall looking good I think we were all half dead until that station went up in Flames now now the pilots have hope hope that maybe we can win that's what they need see honestly that is kind of the experience of marathoning secret missions because we really once you get to the

495. 07:06:37

     star post you have hope that you can the end is in sight sit down mck it's coming down to the wire the enemy Fleet is going to head straight to us now right into our trap I want that ship with the secret repord the one that destroy Goddard if we're wingmates on the strike against that ship don't get between me and her that ship is going down no matter what no matter matter what you have a weird attitude ice man I'm I thought this was a team effort Ice Man Maverick any bets on which one of us is going to beg the ship with the kathi secret weapon that'll be something to have in your permanent record everybody saw a feet all of a sudden so and so the Tiger Claw is credited with the kill it will be someone of the Tiger Claw of the karath ship that destroyed

496. 07:07:27

     Goddard Colony I just hope that our boys in to go get a clean view on the kill I'd hate I'd hate to ship with a carrier load of Pilots dot dot dot all of whom think they'd put in the final missile that's not really a worry yeah somehow helian always knows exactly how many kills you got by the time you get out of your ship so although he does not know what happened in the mission sometimes sometimes you have to explain it to him I know how many kills you got did you find that drop by the way no sir no idea where it went two killer captured a k carrier ship yesterday when we were attacking the Supply Depot we now have a schematic less than 2 days old of the kathi strike Patrol

497. 07:08:16

     assignments in the Vegas sector I thought we kicked him out of the vctor what this means is if we do manage to get back home safely we're going to be able to nail those cats in Vegas a round of applause and cheers echo through the briefing room again T his voice the other news is that the bees identified the Kathy ship with the secret weapon a super dread knot which we've code named the SAR this may be the same ship that was cited by our Pilots not far from our own position that ship will be our main targets pilot we're going to lure into this location and Destroy her completely and the kill Wy secret weapon but now we need to concentrate on

498. 07:09:04

     today's mission is it a com sh Patrol Mission Tigers CLA position where the base station was this means we're probably going to intercept some incoming ships now a lot of us will be short on fuel or in desperate need of repairs but we can't bet that any ship coming and will be an easy kill and we can't afford for any of them to tell the siar where here so shoot to kill Pilots ignore all radio communications from the kill Ry is there ever been a situation they sent out an emergency Beacon to the Saar while they stay on the horn with you pretend anything to negotiate this has never happened not yet thank goodness H isn't trying to show up about

499. 07:09:53

     now more good news you've been reassigned to rapers for this Mission about damn time we need our newest best Star Fighters for these missions we could have used them for the previous 11 or 12 missions each Wing will have an individual assignment listen for your name you wait if the colonel assigns the other Wings Sigma Wing will be Maverick and ican with Maverick as Wing leader you're running a comet style Patrol Mission remember those Comet style Comet style launch them move to 1500 clicks and circle the claw a few times if you see any cats attack and Destroy now as a young impressionable gamer actually went and

500. 07:10:41

     did that when you're sure the area is clear why not to nav one the area is one of the closest Jump points and we can expect some incoming Kathy to pop up there shoot over to nav 2 next clear to Bogies and have for nav three once youve eliminated the enemy forces there return to the claw so essentially what a common style Patrol mission is is every mission in the game immediately find your res Epsilon will launch and hit in other words we're doing a constant rotation of wings until we know where the enem is coming from these nav points will be under constant observation dismissed um so the biggest you know Chris Roberts game screw you about the

501. 07:11:31

     super fighter at the end is in strike Commander you play all of strike Commander flying and F-16 until the very very end where and I'm sorry these are spoilers for strike Commander if anyone cover their ears um you steal the Prototype F22 from the government and uh you get to fly that for like the last two or three missions and then there's this they did a a mission disc just like this called tactical operations you fly the uh the F22 for the first mission and then you land and your accountant is there and he tells you it cost too much money to fly so they're going to have to sell it and you never you go back to flying on F16 which is awful but that's probably the way it would turn out

502. 07:12:21

     yeah actually uh within that fiction if it you know takes off of our own Universe which I guess we've already we we've come and gone as far as the date for strike Commander haven't we yep 2011 okay well so much for that but if there only 300 or 400 of those f-22s in the world period yeah finding parts may 187 or so yeah tops right I didn't remember the exact number but I knew it was low I didn't know it was that low though yeah at different points in time it Ratched it down it was 300 at one time and then I think it's 180 something plus spares and a test frame or something what 16 F22 is in real life there less there's less than 200 talk about Hangar Queen don't put that one in your fix there won't be very many of them did they actually construct an f23

503. 07:13:10

     it's in strike command but I wonder do yeah cuz there's there's flight tests uh you can see there's photos online of F22 and f23 flying together I think I think they built two of them I mean that's exactly the last mission strike matter or the uh the final eight Battle Is You versus the prot of 203 that was a cool game 23 was a cool fighter yep oh what just jumped uh multiples it's this is the transports I would imagine that we are intercepting lombari it is kind of fun to be the one beating up on transports for a change actually we kill a fair number of transports in in secret missions don't we they do a good job of having an

504. 07:13:59

     actual kic Fleet that you're slowly ating that was for Vega n that was also for Vine everything is Vine again Chris Robert seems to have destroyed another Vegas system Happ get hit from behind yeah I am it's

505. 07:15:59

     gra I B would help me oh I took out one of his guns that's cool took him out um I love seeing when you yeah we talked about this earlier but I love you can damage stuff mhm correctly Iceman is a much better ringman to have he's actually

506. 07:16:47

     effective or maybe it's just cuz he's flying a rape here mhm I shall Beast upon your offspring a e Alexis is watching shot it's good

507. 07:18:59

     movie where we're living the realized white sh wi Commander Marathon I don't know what that meant best that way okay yeah Iceman does a good job

508. 07:21:12

     oh we just let it D dang it sorry I like how the damage indicator for the dra when it takes when it this is it front armor it's just a tiny red circle or tiny red sliver

509. 07:22:00

     and it has these giant board wings like taking on a JY from the front is just a it's a heck of a proposition and then they they make it late those of you asking we've heard from all the Raffle winners guys so if you're asking it wasn't you please tell me there are not too many navs clearly Richard driver saw some God this is your last wave

510. 07:23:06

     where just go I don't know good interesting than all right this is by Frost 3 three

511. 07:23:55

     so we got four missions to go 75% of the way through mhm B not bad we were going from half to 3/4 quick whoa then he crashes did you request clearance I thought I did but in the days I don't know that maybe we didn't happen I did but must have just missed the front was wor it wasn't going to land how are the folks in the Stream

512. 07:24:42

     doing anybody actually still watching us yep 856 people wow and 846 of them are entering a raffle that doesn't exist it what it's about to exist cuz we just finished the series what do you think you should give away next something in the cutless family maybe yeah what about a rare cut such as the cutless blue all right let's do a cutless blue welcome back fabc report all right guys we're opening the raffle for a cutless blue give me just a second and the raffle is open way they moved I think they were low on fuel a routine refueling Wing turning from it me both of the tack are trash

513. 07:25:34

     colel aari and gr es were cruising through nav 2 they apparently just jumped into the system is Splash sir the real show sir was at a three a froy class cruiser was jumping in with a JY asscar my guess is they were responding to a distress call from the former Depot I have no information on which to base this clay those mothers are tough but that frothy is toasty froy and jolies sounds like a wi command porno wonderful Malick I'm glad you contain the news of our presence now the fleet's likely to continue her present course damn good shop that exists in the tering Confederation your kill to of 10 Maverick really just 10 cuz Ice Man

514. 07:26:24

     finished off like four my kills jeez six killed six himself good work Iceman icean rape is the best combination M later see me in my office this m why do he never I SP you promoted you could not make the original winand but you can in secret missions so everybody dead or bars closed bck no drinking loud Colonel's orders he was everyone at 100% even Paladin singled out there job palad under the bus is this Vig or valard let me check valard

515. 07:27:18

     valard Bard yay have good news and bad news the good news is the see is near and she's low on fuel because we've tracked and destroyed all of the fuel tankers in this area that's true so we know she has to be on her way here he's using the wrong pronoun now we're going to saddle up and head back along the Lamar's course and find the enemy Fleet they're probably moving we may have to hunt around a bit so we're launching all the wings along slightly different courses remember stay alert once again you're with icean is moving noding off no mistakes cool and cruel got that got it sir yeah there's definitely a different person writing houseen in this launch and cruise have one if you meet any Kathy on arrival

516. 07:28:09

     dispose of them and continue to nav 2 destroy any cats this is Aaron Alon this time did oh that makes more sense then head to nav three get rid of any enemy ships and head for home your return flight should be the anav one that way you'll avoid the minefields entirely run into sear hit your Squawk Box and let us know questions yes angel good luck my friends and God's speed that's not a question Angel all right Pilots let's launch yes this is another one we're cruising B

517. 07:29:00

     through nav one like he says obviously gives you more crap so you can choose to maybe go home through the Min yeah fish you went to the fish market yes we we we beat a mission so we're we moved this head to a system we're in valard now four missions to go Fish Market and Lando play a ukulele I don't think we have a ukulele

518. 07:29:50

     here can you play a ukulele of the imagination my favorite ukulele song is that one that Steve Marner burned at Peter sing in the jerk everything is whatever Steve Martin does in the joke I know I know you belong to some new but tonight you me well you know what this reminds me you know how I get through eating scrape Pizza instead of real Pizza just pretend it's Pizza in a cup down by the sea how sweet it would

519. 07:30:38

     be once more just to be in the Moonlight my honey I'm yours I'm yours I didn't realize I knew that many much of the words I don't know the rest I just man to strip this CR of its dignity well that's pretty much what house told you to do of its dignity take its dignity then take its life come on I kill that thing we can go

520. 07:31:26

     on you can do it come on I up there and get in front of him I just he told you not to get between him and well the best Steve Martin musical performance was little shopa Horus though oh yeah be a dentist so good when I was younger just to bad a little kid my mama noticed funny things I did like shooting puppies with a BB gun I poisoned Guppies and when I was done I found a cat and Bash in its head allly just tweeted the hang in there baby cat at me that's what my mama said what did she say it's pretty good tweet though she said my boy I think someday you find a way to make your natural tendencies pay you'll be a

521. 07:32:18

     dentist you have aing down what oh it's a Simpsons joke Mar is looking for inspiration she finds that poster and then she looks Clos out of the copyright 1976 that is long head oh so sad my favorite Simpsons bit and admittedly I I only watched like the first 10 or 15 years and I fell off but my favorite Simpson no it'll be in there whatever it is yeah is when when Homer walks in the front door he's got some major decision I don't know something's wrong he looks up and he goes he go oh he goes please God please tell me what to do I don't know what to do God help me and and and then Marge comes and goes Homer that's not God that's a pancake

522. 07:33:06

     you threw up on the ceiling and it's been there for the last 6 years and the camera pans up and there's a pancake on that ceiling he pulls it down Waits a bit takes a bite and he has been on the ceiling for 6 years and goes sacrilicious that's my favorite alltime Simpsons gag sa sacri whenever I bite into an exceptionally good pancake even if it doesn't come off the ceiling that's what I say nobody understands what I'm doing even yeah nobody understands what I'm doing in the middle of an IHOP why are you saying sacrilicious we went to that IHOP in Elsa gundo I ordered French toast I

523. 07:33:56

     didn't say it but French toast strictly a pancake thing this a fun trip yes when we went to E3 nope this when we went to San Diego Comic-Con oh that's right different things yes we should find out if we're going to San dieo ComicCon this year we should actually go no matter what I mean we can nerd yeah but it was way cooler being actually on a stage yeah we should do that again if we can't sheing for Lando tell us a joke you're good-looking and you smell we by

524. 07:35:03

     was funny there's actually little sh in the history of Little Shop of Horrors they actually wrote two songs for the dentist but they were deemed too similar and they never actually used the other song that's bad too bad like I could have used more of it yeah well the other song is much more blue too it's uh it's a yeah but it's it's it's a yeah it's as a murmuring lyrics it's not appropriate sing no I have not seen the pilot of the expanse it's one of those things on my list everybody I know and their mothers have told me I should have watched the

525. 07:35:49

     expanse So eventually I will unfortunately we do this with our spare no I mean as opposed to watching TV best X Files episode I wasn't a big fan of the X Files I liked it I but it was I watched maybe half of it like I probably seen half of every episode in every season I am a big X Files fan um uh I really like which reminds me I have a screener of the new one if you want to uh check it out yeah we you're not supposed to admit that I think I admit that one cuz I didn't get it from anybody who get in trouble I actually went to an X Files

526. 07:36:37

     convention like in the 9s when xiles was on and um Moulder and sculling like they weren't there but it was a big convention with like thousands of people and they had like EV it was only like two or three seasons in and it was every person that was in like the oneoff the guy that had the stretchy arms and the person that was the weird twin have the inbr twins from family or whatever that was basically that kind of yeah that kind of stuff like um myor SK Skinner what's the guy's name m yeah he was there he yeah like he was the biggest star there I have a s grab that tin and see if there's actually popcorn left in there I have a sad one which is that at that same time I went to an X Files event at the mall which was uh the

527. 07:37:26

     people there were Kevin J Anderson who had written an xile comic book and is at every event there is and uh he a the no tombs the tombs he's a stretch guy man he made the rounds he must have like known yeah this is my moment I'm I kind of even like vaguely remember this 22-year-old memory of him saying like yeah tell those guys more TOS that cheese popcorn is not good the cheddar popcorn uh the rle right now is for a cutless blue got this blue well that's one way to win a

528. 07:38:25

     railroad I'm not going to sport you that going around Robin Hood's barn but yeah let's ask by the way is that an expression twitch around Robin Hood's Barn well seriously You' never heard of it my mother uh something my mother says lot you went to Sherwood High so I did go to Robin Hood be high school I will admit that perhaps do you your bed chair yet I do I know I I'm good with names and of things yeah ever since I had the casf

529. 07:39:16

     I've just been in pain so I figure I might as well not be hungry saying hey you see wait nobody explained to how that digestive system works I realize I'm in pain and I'm hungry I can fix one of those actually I'm doing much better I uh I released quite a bit of gas during ramp I didn't notice so that's good we offer I hope we're not going to be here for a while yes that was a UHF reference curin we have three and a half missions to go that was a Stan halfway point UHF

530. 07:40:06

     reference so it could be an hour it could be three cutless blue okay well we have an offer of pizza delivery yeah uh we'll do a tour of the office when the office is like at 100% % we want to we want to wait until it's all Sparkles I truly wish I could show you what Sandy did today though there's still much of the opposite Center Construction St the spaceship doors aren't even done yet yeah this is about halfway through this Mission halfway through this Mission this Mission a long well it depends how many waves you've been

531. 07:40:55

     through you've got these two froy yeah there's another nav point some grth and orari how much game time we thinking it just was asking about pizza probably 2 hours keep it simple yeah the opp the oppos has been white box I'd say we're in gray box phase we're in advanced gray box phase right now we have partial 3dr done there's still a lot of work to be done on the exterior and the interior the ceiling is still going in yeah they were installing

532. 07:41:45

     skylights this morning oh that's an unfair Choice bling saddles or money python in the Holy Grail you ever heard that game movie God where you have to you have to play movie God and you have to decide which movie you strike from existence it never happens that's that would be a tough movie God Blazing Saddles of Mighty python the Holy G which one do you wipe from existence never happens it's hard because if you wipe out my python holy gr you still have Flying Circus you still have the majority of their of their career and works but if you wipe out Blazing

533. 07:42:32

     Saddles that might be it for for Mel Brooks we don't get we don't get Young Frankenstein we don't get what I could do without Space Balls I was going to say space balls and then I yeah after this most recent viewing of space ball space ball did not age well they're just both such subversive movies and I love subversiveness more than almost anything the world wow that that's tough blazing STS are my pyth on the ho ground I mean you take away Holy Grail you we probably don't get life of Bri which is arguably the better movie I

534. 07:43:23

     would agree yeah holy Grill is probably funnier holy Grill is a funnier movie than life of but Life of Brian is a better overall movie wow ultimately my python was more important to me to my childhood it shaped more of my sense of humor my my parents my my biological mother and father did the coconut thing on their on their first dat I got smash Blazing Saddles oh hard why did I even bring that

535. 07:44:16

     up cuz somebody asked me to pick between movies I got to go with M python but it's it's a hard Choice all right we 131 16th complete yay that's a fraction three to go three to go people yeah if that's going to make it here they should order it now it's uh yeah it's oh it don't make it I do have a one minute diversion I loved Space Balls as a child you know Ben and I Ali had never seen space ball all this stuff we could talk about so Ben and I were like what you've never seen space balls so we said it side of night and and we got together three of us and Ben and I showed Ally space balls

536. 07:45:04

     and while it was playing Ben and I would just felt terrible we felt so embarrassed Ben and I would just exchange glances like you I mean like you're in the gym and you accidentally looked down you didn't mean to and he was like oh are we really watching this this is this is not where is this movie that was so good to us when we were children Spaceball does not hold up oh my gosh you know is we didn't even like it as a comedy when we were kids we were desperate for some more Star Wars and it felt Star Wars that's why we watched Ewok movies and and when I I can quote it right now and I laugh but I'm I'm I'm resurrecting the laughter when I was a kid it's it's not laughter now it's it's just it's just it was really rough the

537. 07:45:52

     the only the bit that's still gold though there there are two bits that there are two bits that are absolutely unstably gold one is uh is uh the film on video the what are you watching this is now sir what happened to then we pass it when just now when will then be now soon that bits unassailable the second one is combing the desert combing the desert is fantastic oh yeah we ain't found we ain't found I'm not saying it doesn't have great moments I'm just saying that the entire collapses under its own weight yeah Chris what do you want to show us I do okay so this is a you have plastic yes this is a small present that I I got I I had to special order this and it

538. 07:46:40

     came here just in time wow touch man and and it's not for me no it's not it's it's not for me it's for Ben and it is a wi Commander product and it's probably the the only one of its kind it it had to traveled thousands of miles to get here it is a genuine bootleg Chinese iPhone case so you can hold that up to the camera that that is something else China just puts thousands of Google image search images through their machine and they crank out crank out you know whatever crap that and they produce it well this is actually yeah you found this on the internet cuz you showed this to me the other day a couple weeks ago rather so

539. 07:47:28

     so their wing Commander logo cro well it was cropped backwards so you only get two letters down the middle and that's what makes it perfect this is great cuz my apple one was decaying well that's what I thought I reminded me of it you you had your phone up now I have this this is great in like a medical baggie too well used on genuine body parts before before this if it if it fits That'll be amazing yeah it pretty much fits genuine and bootleg got a genuine uh let's see yeah that one inma just swaner the call you're not allowed to explain swaner the call by the way have to admit I'm wrong on Space Balls people can have

540. 07:48:17

     differing opinions that's how the world Works dude there's Al all right let's talk to uh let's talk to shot glass hey Maverick glad to see you all right I go back to the game I keep hearing that the situation is bad and getting worse I think the stress is getting to everyone L of things were good just a second ago yeah I've seen a lot of off duty pilots in here are getting darker than skunks and fighting each other two Tex and a pilot tried to kill each other in here 2 hours ago and some people were just going crazy like Maniac that's surpris I'm telling you if we don't finish off these kathis soon and get out of this place we might end up killing each other and save

541. 07:49:05

     the kathis of work first of all you're the bartender in this military bar if people are getting so drunk that they try to kill each other it's your fault I'm fine killing shot glass at this time can't kill shot glass he's a major by the way sh GL is a major hello Maverick I have been sitting here thinking he used to fly sorry my fiance what if he has been captured like those poor souls aboard gavar G captured him forced to betray his own people over and over again it is a fate too horrible to contemplate well all you know is there was an attack on this Colony you don't know that anything has happened to your fiance yet I will tell you now if I were

542. 07:49:53

     to be captured oh we finished the mission we have to draw the B I would rather die yeah we can draw the raffle hey we finished the mission going to draw the raffle for a cutless blue better than the dishonor and shame of what happened in the Gwar's crew I got this blue this is I wonder if this kind of parallels like developing a big game cuz we were getting really depressed very stressful as we uh crunch all right and the winner of the cutless blue is borrow 057 Bor 057 congratulations you're the winner of a cutless blue uh please send a private message to the cig Community twitch profile with the email address that your star s account is

543. 07:50:42

     attached to if for any reason you don't have a star account you can go to robertsspaceindustries.com and register one there and then send us the email that you use and we'll get you a uh cutless blue sometime next week thanks watching are you okay I'm in I'm an emergency contact with the office I can do open and close I even got look look this look at this he want want some poers no no no we're the yeah that's dum I just hit a button yeah got come back first uh Sandy

544. 07:51:35

     wants to keep working light 's over there he's getting ready to leave we're how are you here yeah um so while we're doing this why don't we take a moment to talk know after this one we'll do another this one more Mission then another we have three missions to go after this Mission we'll do another raffle it will be the end of the valard system and then we'll take a moment to talk about forarts for a moment uh let's talk to Angel Maverick I'm glad to see you well I had heard you were injured on your last mission there are too many rumors

545. 07:52:26

     floating around the ship on some of the stories I have h i for cannot believe this is a suicide mission soon we will complete this Mission and return to our duties in the Vegas sector chokes when you Angel we're going to the uh going to the antari sector after this did it go soed sorry let it R sorry didn't go through oh Lieutenant Colonel that was a lot of promotions here it was productive Mission we've also gotten how many ranks how many missions average per rank well you go first lieutenant Captain major Lieutenant Colonel so you

546. 07:53:14

     got four promotions in about a dozen Mission so far so so far you've gotten the promotion about every three missions we have all but one of the ribbons too does anybody know which one's missing a is there an ace AC Aces we definitely got we got Ace of Aces which is 25 okay we probably got that in one Mission here oh is there a Vega no I started Vega 15 Mission we only have two medals though only two medals after all that work the medals are very sparse in this one we've missed a couple but they're very very sparse listen closely Pilots cuz we don't have much time time our success against the Supply

547. 07:54:01

     Depot has left a large number of kathi fightings without a home base tactical says those ships are heading here they'll be very low on fuel they might try to take the Tiger Claw intact Pilots just stay close to the Tiger's claw and defend oh as soon as those ships are destroyed land immediately we'll be jumping from this location seems straightforward before more of those orphan Fighters can arrive assignments the commander lists the other Wing teams then addresses you mck you and Ice Men are moving again everything's moved get ready for immediate launch dismissed uh yeah I think Galaxy Quest still holds up yes I watched that

548. 07:54:48

     recently yeah it's on you can be a real jerk and argue that quite seriously that it is the best Star Trek movie yes yes okay this goes back to the Space Balls thing how I tell whether a movie help now Space Balls was a terrific movie when I was a child I loved it growing up and I think most of the people that defend it today are people that haven't watched it in the last 10 years or they're still 10 or 15 or whatever um the way I way I decide whether a movie holds up is if I can sit down and watch it that's it you're not on your phone you're not surfing the internet you're not goofing off and doing something else while you're watching if that movie still holds your attention today then that movie holds up the jerk

549. 07:55:39

     holds up Galaxy Quest holds up Space Balls doesn't hold up it was just it was just played it like I said it still has those gags those Timeless gags that are still fantastic but overall in the ho I was just I was embarrassed to be watching it the yeah I was embarrassed to be showing somebody else is what it was I was like after talking it up it's like this year number of Wang jokes and like 1970s Jewish jokes just seem very inappropriate now you know time to change those but by the way I should stress that when we say we don't like movie it's it's not that movie is the worst movie ever we should fight about it it's it's our particular opin and we are not we are not uh PAC movie decisions it's it's okay to

550. 07:56:33

     disagree Timeless gags are a contribution that not every movie makes regardless of whether or not you like the whole thing we had an episode of reverse the verse where basically a half dozen people in the back um basically just ran with the what is happening now is happening now B everybody in the room knew it and we all did it it doesn't have to be a perfect movie to give you a joy like that it's just like your opinion man big oh the big Labowski is one of my favorites it's it's hard because it's the easy obvious choice for favorite Cohen brother movie but I TR but hudsucker proxy has this profound meaning to me it it it's it's hard for me to pick leowski over HUD sucker proxy

551. 07:57:24

     even though it it probably is the better movie I mean it is the better movie it's just I love Hud soccer Bron that's dude that the the Montage with the the creation of the hul loop you know when the machines are making the first hul Loop and the hul loops don't sell and the guy throws them out and the one hula hoop rolls down the street and the kid that montage is one of the best montages ever put on film I it it is it is a work of art that entire sequence but a rrific score by uh Carter bwell yes see you know for kids I love that movie Big Lebowski is a

552. 07:58:13

     better movie it's a better movie it's a funnier movie it's a better acted movie it's better all around it just I sucker proxy man sure sure Paul Newman Lando which Star Trek movie did you not like out of all the Star Trek movies made in the darkness no I would watch Nemesis again before I'd watch Into Darkness although Nemesis is bad that Insurrection was super boring Insurrection is just a Insurrection is a two-part episode yeah it shouldn't even been two-part episod yeah no Insurrection is one of those two-part episodes and not even a season finale part one of those weird ones they do in the middle of the of the it's Gambit one

553. 07:59:02

     and two although not as good as Gambit yeah looking back at Star Trek next Generation knowing what I do now about the making of it I can tell exactly when they were trying to just like please please uh what's his name Kevin beard actor yeah oh no no you can do Die Hard I'll be fine NE Nemesis Nemesis was one of the first movies where I got to like read the script ahead of time and the the script to Nemesis was much better than what they put on the screen that's because they had Stuart barar directing it and he had no idea what Star Trek was oh his commentary on

554. 07:59:50

     the DVD is amazing if you ever do people listen to DVD commentaries anymore I feel like I never do but I you you should and you should listen to that one because it's brilliant not not no not Stewart Bears brilliant but just the things he says he's obsessed with uh shinzan yes Tom Hardy Tom Hardy like I think even even Patrick would agree that this was Tom's picture he's just so spectacular uh there's this one there's a shot early on of the Enterprise flying through space and he's like I put this one in for the Star Trek fans it's the famous Star Trek warp speed it's just the Enterprise City there establishing shot yeah what's interesting if if you've seen Nemesis uh I'm sorry but if you seen nesis there's this scene where the

555. 08:00:40

     Enterprise and the and the uh s the Scimitar are they they've damaged they've shot each other they're super damaged uh they can't go to warp neither one of them can warp neither one of them have weapons and and shinz On's joking about not joking but shinan is taunting Bard because he knows what he's going to do I am you I'm a dark mirror whatever and Bard decides oh I'll show him he doesn't know what I'm going to do and just Rams the Enterprise into the citar killing everybody in the first like 10 decks uh 10 sections of of of of the Enterprise just to prove a point to shinzon that he can't prove what he's doing uh what he's going to do in the script the scimitar isn't this weird bird thing that they

556. 08:01:30

     made it it's a gigantic version of a it's it's a ramul and warbird it's just a it's just a giant ramul and warbird as they were one that was equal in size to the Galaxy class ship it just had some special armaments on it so what happens is the ships are disabled they can't go anywhere they can't shoot and the Scimitar is slowly getting its cloak back so the ship is starting to cloak pieces of it are starting to cloak and once they get their cloak back they can take off and can't stop him so what Bard does is he does that thing that all kids do when they were playing with their toys he takes the Enterprise and Rams it inside the big Center oval of the warbird so it can't go anywhere it can cloak around it but he can't go anywhere and I thought that was brilliant I'm like that's the thing that all kids do

557. 08:02:17

     when they had the toys but when they changed the design of the ship that maneuver didn't make any sense and Stuart bear just like well just have them Ram they supposed to Ram the scene is here it's supposed to ram and now just makes Bard look petty and stupid and he kills half the people in the ship so the the script was way better now the script is still written by John Logan writer of some of the worst movies in Skyfall and uh and uh Spectre time machine what happened while we were talking about this is the Tigers defend the tiger CL ican died he died by ramming the Tigers claw getting stuck Blair just promised to get the bastard who killed him get iiz for missing that that was something I would have liked to have seen I'll watch it on the replay as we were busy talking about ships ramming into other ships killing

558. 08:03:07

     innocence yeah no this is a wing Commander stream it's not a Star Citizen stream guys if you're wondering why we're not answering start S some questions we have like four broadcasts a week that do that you look like you're having a good day Maverick oh by the way we're five next week because we're going to do another subscriber live stream on Wednesday you heard it here first it's going to be a question sh designers it's got to I hope we get that shot soon for Zach and Trisha ah waiting is always the worst part Bottoms Up MAV yes everybody waiting is the worst part so that wasn't was Iceman supposed to die that way or you we just lost him you're just stupid we'll just have to get the big ship at the end for him yeah but now we don't have to worry about

559. 08:03:54

     getting in his way well he's not a ring one for that one anyway so yeah look look at our you're running out of wing oh that's an impressive kill was Casey Paladin Casey was ice ice oh Casey Paladin ended up Surviving wow and uh which one's Hunter H Hunter died a long time ago he's John at the bottom oh uh but somehow Spirit came back to life so um so it's time to do another uh another raffle what do you think we should give away uh another raffle another raffle well just talk about resupply star well that's a big one you a star

560. 08:04:43

     fair cuz we've been blowing up all these transports or these tankers anyway that's a big one all right say thank you gave away a big Shi with no authority to do so this raffle will be for a starf and the raffle is open you have to wait until I say it's open guys it doesn't count before then in fact it may disqualify you if you do it beforehand so don't do that I'm a harsh but not wholly benevolent dictator why why are we looking at only oh God I'm like why is his face cut off on my god let's look at uh let's some of those pictures I skewed up earlier we forgot about those okay I'm going move where' this go I'm

561. 08:05:32

     going move this over over here take a short break to show off some historical odds and ends go to the screen share o if anybody's interested I'll put these online afterwards I I gathered up some of the advertising they did for this and some other interesting bits and pieces um does last forward to show after though so there we go all right and uh start from the just leave this one and then you just do that like that there you go um this is this is actually part my magazine about the Amiga Port of win Commander one there was no aiga version of secret missions but secret missions was what they used to develop the initial proof of concept so if you look at the omiga the pre-release screenshots for the Oma version many of them have the SAR in it uh which is the uh big

562. 08:06:20

     dread knot we're going to be fighting in a bit go to the next one it uh that's another Amiga screen another one of the previous screenshots you the see bar down there in the lower left corner this is Origins advertising for them they would run this in as a column like a side column in magazine very cheap advertising um origin never advertised just secret missions they did secret missions one and two at the same time um because of course they didn't know it was the success and then advertis them together um that's that's what we have to look forward to a karate holy war go up again go go up a ter I'm sorry go go up a bit fly four new ships in so that is bad copy because you do not fly

563. 08:07:10

     four new ships you fly no new ships uh there are four new ships you don't fly them um but you do fly a Kathy star fighter yeah that's which is the way no one has ever referred to it outside of this oh my God all right I canum uh zoom in on that what is that okay this is this is a document from origin um internally where they were listing out what they needed to do to finish the packaging for wi Commander one um this is all just uh you know when it needs to go to the cop the place to print blah blah blah you can see that everything went to the printer to uh two months before the game actually came Elementary School more of that um it was the third page P that was most

564. 08:07:58

     interesting to me which is where they add secret mission stuff um figuring out what is due how they're going to do secr this is literally a document we would put together and we have question marks where we haven't decided stuff um you can see the original plan was to do it you know a box without screenshots because it's cheaper um and then just ideas for promotions uh I thought that was fun like to suggest to everybody who's like when you're overthinking your ships for Star Citizen many of them start like that so now this here is the initial overview by by win 1's game designers of what is in each Mission how the story goes and what what each Mission type is and essentially what you put into it so this would be given to designer this would be done by the lead designer it would be G they didn't use

565. 08:08:45

     those termin terminology back then but then it would be given to the uh they call them tdas back then the technical design assistants we call them uh designers now um then they they would flesh out the missions you can see bifrost oops you can see it's a it used to be Asgard they changed the name of the system it was Asgard and it became valgard that's the one we just finished vigrid is the one we're just starting now that's interesting I'd never noticed that before that's a interesting win matter of fact and then Retreat there's there's two other missions that are the losing missions that you can't get out of so we're not going to see those today hopefully um though there was no manual for this but of course there was art created for

566. 08:09:33

     these ships because they did the line art to send off to the contractor to uh have them based a 3D model on um unfortunately no one has ever found the art for the lombari the diligent lumbar or the diligent but we have found the art they did actually publish some of the art that was not used in claw marks in a special supplement in computer gaming world this is it was actually you know a little winenter manual publish inside the magazine and it has the art for the SAR right here along with the specs and information and then they also did which was not in win win One manual because it's the reveal at the end the star post um so if if you thought you'd seen everything from claw marks here's uh a couple images you have it and now I know this thing has missiles yes I didn't know that before um this is

567. 08:10:24

     this was Origins internal advertisement for uh slip they come in a game just advertising secret missions secr missions 2 you can see they added more color for the secret missions 2 Box um because it was a success Privateer we dig that weird old Privateer concept sketch and uh you can see the 79.95 MSRP that was pretty standard at the time can you believe we sell a game for Less now it's crazy the game should cost more because everything else so much more yeah games are games are weird they cost 100 times more to make they uh cost half as much shirt now it's interesting let's see here's the poster and Chris showed that to us already with the it's a it's supposed to be a jolty fighting a cornet um for the this came with these secret I remember it's amazing how much

568. 08:11:12

     that now reminds me of the Avenger firing at the Mustang mhm I mean it's not a it's not a difficult thing to put together but it's the first thing that comes to mine now actually this is something I kind of wish we did in the star cism was have different artists takes on the ships you I'd love to see like cartoon art of star sens ships or comic book art something different than our super realistic stuff um I I remember I was in Middle School I paid one of my brother's friends $5 for the uh the poster my mom didn't let us have Super Nintendo games or Nintendo games at all console games at all and he thought he was really scamming me and I thought I was really scamming him uh he right this is the advertising they did missions uh s NES can you scream in

569. 08:12:04

     space we've been asking that question lately yeah yes we can um I don't know who this pilot is some kind of stock art with the box art reflected in his face it's a weird cool ad um we only discovered this recently because they they advertised SNS games in places other than you know cgw pz gamer it was in like comic books and but y that's uh that here we have the back of the box this is the advertising slick that orig sent about the two games they would send these to retailers uh back at this point in history they had uh I'm losing my voice I'm sorry they had essentially traveling salesmen who would go around the country they would go to you know headquarters of Walmart headquarters of Target headquarters of bages and they would have these uh these full color

570. 08:12:53

     origin uh folders and inside the folders there'd be one of these ad slicks from for every single game in development or Clos to coming out um the secret missions one it rarely shows up in collections but we have a nice scan here and there's the back um I will sck all these online afterwards if folks are interested in history and um a couple more images but we're going to show you after um there's an alternate ending to the game in the Super Nintendo version depending on which uh depending on which uh choice you take uh which uh skill level and we'll show you the the one that's not in the PC game after this got screenshots of it and we Pizza we have pizza so oh pizza is here that's awesome so that is so nice yeah who who sent us

571. 08:13:44

     the pizza Bose so thank you Bose thank you um you guys go ahead I have to scrape which is disgusting and no one should see so I will uh just sa me a pce okay thank goodness we have off camera space Oh let's get back to uh blasting cats blasting cats we' got two missions to go guys did I say my again yes I did I hope I better do better just do it again no it's

572. 08:14:45

     big mission briefing unknown sector named vigrid attention we need to get everyone on the flight line fast our T has pinpointed the siar and the kathi know where we are they're sending a massive strike against the Tiger Claw it will be in all hands on deck and in space Here's the setup sensors show a large Strike Force messing at now one Our Guest is they'll have at least one heavy ship with multiple Fighters whatever is there has be stop before it jumps to our position when you sure the area is clear head back to the claw Maverick and Knight get the duty your designation is Omicron Wing the colonel signs other wings questions all right then keep alert and don't make any mistakes dismissed knows um this is the penultimate

573. 08:15:37

     Mission uh have you guys noticed um something interesting about the missions uh a fair number of salty lots and lots of cramps way too many graa um more JY than I ever want to see again in my life almost no draw the signature ship of wing Commander is almost entirely absent from this game I think they they show up in you know that one mission where you uh you have a friendly one yeah the friendly one and I think not many other places and as soon as after right after this it gets upgraded to the dry Mark 2 and secret missions to definitely much more kill yeah so um I guess they we busy retrofiting all of them what you're

574. 08:16:25

     seeing there is much like what we do live on Star say in the alpha right now is a balance pass um they they Bas o they basically realized oh the uh the dry is too easy to kill um but since the product was already out you can't just oh automatically change it instead uh we they uh release next year's model yes so they wrot into the fiction which is one of those Rob things I love immersion know instead of just changing the ship stats best Kathy in Privateer I shall

575. 08:17:26

     Mount your bones in my hall these guys have a maximum speed of 280 so it's very very easy to Ram I mean it's easy to Ram everything this game thanks night oh wow thank you for spawning the next wave of Fighters no I do that h

576. 08:19:21

     thanks d yeah there's a very large truck out

577. 08:20:32

     there probably garbage truck ah I thought that was too easy there's two missions right this one and one more yeah so we'll draw this one after this Mission and then do the

578. 08:21:22

     last one we we went two missions between the last sounds good he how do I like Robot Chicken Star Wars I like it it's pretty fun I haven't seen it in a

579. 08:22:09

     while I'm not a fan I'll disagree with you on that I never I never just never click with me think my favorite thing in the Robot Chicken Star Wars is the relationship between Palpatine and Vader also we watching in Star Wars is what almost got us set green making a Star Wars comedy TV show yeah that's a that was a bad thing killing that was one of the hey I think Disney has it right night oh wa what the night night bad night eers see what you did you threw the raffle

580. 08:22:59

     off night I saw I saw one of the Family Guy Star Wars I I've seen like maybe three episodes of Family Guy before I I I liked the Family Guy Star Wars there was a a Blues Brothers riff where they were sneaking aboard the uh uh Death Star to many the mucher that I appreciated I'm a big Blu Brothers fan no no not in about an

581. 08:23:58

     hour I'll get done what I can and then you guys okay let me know give me like minutes sure BL Brothers 2000 isn't the best it has a good soundtrack though the soundtrack of loser brother 2000 is awesome but yeah the the movie itself was not good r

582. 08:24:57

     you got hit pretty hard up front I rammed ramm a jolty you can do

583. 08:26:04

     it you can't do it I said you CR do it you can't do this Onis I tell you I went to altine with one of the girls from that show you did tell me that are you allowed to admit that on live nope I think there's probably a statute limitations on AA maybe you didn't say which one it was anyway I assume there was one girl again yeah behind me is it night again probably is it a hard Mission

584. 08:26:58

     by we're just getting I don't know why that guy is heading away from me every time I get to the nav point but I will take it yes the Icarus 180 Avenger is very

585. 08:28:08

     cool that's I had the space money and resources that's probably what I would pursue for my battle station how excited are you for the upcoming Legends of Tomorrow TV series I'm looking forward to it I really like FL both Flash and Angel so um and I'm enjoying Supergirl and that's all it's all this same Greg berani and his team so uh disco and Ben what are your home PCS

586. 08:29:38

     like solid systems we're actually playing on my home PC now I brought it into the office you go ahead yeah just cuz we're playing the game we're streaming and I'm recording it locally so not that the machines here aren't good it's just being Community there don't give me a Powerhouse so I just want to make sure we have more power than we needed so yeah we're actually playing on my home now tells about the build um dual 780 Ti uh 32 gigs of RAM uh Asus four Rampage 4 and i7 stream something I don't

587. 08:30:27

     remember bought it a while back 49 something or rather I'm not a I just I do the research I buy what I buy and then I kind of forget about it I don't I'm not a stats Hound which you might have discovered if you watched any of my videos yep um so I do not have a fantasy gaming PC at home at the moment moment um I do retro gaming in my spare time um so I have about half a dozen different machines now that are specifically built to play particular types of wing um we pictures that WC news yeah the pictures of WC news um I think I have

588. 08:31:15

     more since then I can show you actually later I picked up an FM towns and a pc98 that I'm trying to get learn to figure out those are Japanese weird Japanese computers and I've got an Amiga Amiga 4,000 uh Power Max 7300 I've got a uh a 486 uh a uh a lower level penium that's great for everything except for like when out of Prophecy and uh what else uh I've got higher level higher level penium for some of the later stuff um but I mean my Ian I've got a Mac I work on at home and I've got a Mac Mini that I do media server stuff and you know typical nerd stuff but uh

589. 08:32:05

     no no Powerhouse game PC I do want my start in here when I get a chance um but you know uh my work computer can't handle the game it's a laptop you don't generally give the legal department a gaming PC you need assistance with a larii Wonder Rari we seem have a bug with our Rari it's not showing up on me I've seen that a couple of times it's always the same ships too it's not uh it's not random

590. 08:33:04

     hey Ben what's your favorite wi commander game um I a big fan of secret missions 2 cuz that's kind I the original is my favorite and secret missions 2 I think is the best campaign of it uh just because it's the perfect mix of you're not the hero but uh you know you're part of a larger war effort but it kind of starts to introduce Wing Commander as we know there there's character moments there is a genuine character moment one of these you know talking head dialog secret 2 that makes me cry when I read it um so that should be interesting in April someone just asked you what's your

591. 08:34:01

     favorite Wing Commander ship if that's even possible to answer good question I always like the Orion and Privateer uh I I love the original drawly that F pancake Jesus you walk in front of your missile yes the claw got one though I don't think the claw has any fla so every time it gets one I think it's an enemy fighter ranning it it's got It's got uh doesn't have turrets um or do they not work I I don't know there's just no Flack near the claw uh I also ooh there's interesting question Ben um are you uh going to drift through the void forever is the tig Bo I heard something

592. 08:34:51

     die and I don't see the nice white or gray dot that would ordinarily be the claw yeah where is it well you know what if you just kill that last graa or let it run and then yeah there goes there we are an uncommon sight you want to try to give this one shot you lost the tiger SP I was destroyed by the gra oh wait we didn't get to see the the message oh sorry it's okay I don't think we can it' be a bit of trouble to get back there but what does it say when the claw is destroyed uh your your carrier destroyed you drift down see through space don't like that no the claw is very tough you don't see that often but then in the secret missions they have lots and lots and lots of enemy Fighters I'm surprised at

593. 08:35:41

     actually cuz there was just graa and we just caught off a much worse attack to the CL previous Mission there's no accounting for it it did just say it destroyed it an enemy fighter so maybe the could it just rammed in a bunch of times you know stacked collisions before it goes down the more you play these old games the more familiar you get with their bugs n if I didn't want you as Canon for the next mission I would kill you myself for night nobody likes Knight well very

594. 08:36:35

     few people like Knight he's just not the cool pilot and as kids we just don't think about him much they changed his uh Knight's backstory right oh they changed his uh they changed his birth place for this yeah I think it was it was like originally South Africa it was South Africa and then they didn't want to have South Africa and that's super I guess one of the Nintendo rules you can't mention at the time I mean this was a a part era end of a partai um so you couldn't mention South Africa in a Super Nintendo game in 1993 so they had to change his uh home to Angola someone was paying attention to him find that a little Petty though

595. 08:37:26

     figure after a couple of centuries every country's history has the opportunity to change we just can't get away from our present day Hang-Ups well that's Nintendo's they had I I I have a copy somewhere for the of the uh one for ultimate 7 you basically got a binder of what you could not say in your Nintendo game uh if you wanted to be an approved Nintendo release uh and you know some of them were some of them made sense you know no sex and double sex or anything like that MH but uh no double sex double SE yeah no no Blue Devils you could you could they had to change the name of the Blue Devil Squad and super nintend went to the Blue Angels because you can't mention the devil which is funny it's still a religious reference he's just just not the evil religious reference there's the sh glasses drink

596. 08:38:17

     he toxin drink he can't serve alcohol he can't serve alcohol he serves desserts uh and he invents a new sunde instead of inventing a uh a drink in the original uh so the rosov hair ball is a sunde yes which admittedly I would like better I'm I'm not a big drinker I would I would drink be wi Commander Sunday um if wi Commander every popular again somehow maybe we can you know have a Brandon co-op with uh sure and then we'll have the novelty of a ice cream sunday called hairbow for anybody who is a big drink there's a website Alco Hollywood uhuh and they came up with um they did like a podcast and a drinking game uh an Angel theme drink um all this stuff um for the

597. 08:39:07

     wink winter movie and um that's a that's a good way to watch wi movie is there a good careful about what you pick for like take a drink when I actually there are there are legi many parts of movie I enjoy me too I that's a podcast for another time because I can talk about that for as long as we've been playing anytime Chucky Cairo is on screen anytime Matthew lard is on screen you're the opposite of gold a crazy thing happened though with it uh when going on Netflix this fall people to revisit it yeah the the WC News traffic like doubled overnight

598. 08:39:56

     and consistently even though it's not in the new movies thing and it and and I I searched on Twitter and hundreds of people tweeting ah wink Matter's on Netflix a lot of lot of people you know uh crapping on it a lot of people like see seeing Matthew Lillard saying I love all your movies I just got Wing Commander awesome well I mean as far as the movie goes uh I like a lot of people Shaggy in space what's should we do is this there are plenty of go to space it's the best one uh seriously I mean I like a lot of people I didn't particularly enjoy the movie when it came out because it looked so different from the games and it was the games that I was in love with um but and if you know I think we all know here that if you talk to Chris about it he's

599. 08:40:45

     not going to pretend that it was a perfect film either especially after everything he went through while they were making it um yeah people always like try to you know better movie is not perfect I know I nobody thinks it is but I'm fascinated by the win better universe and the history the Mak so I mean I don't know what else you need to say even Chris says yeah there's a there's a lot about it that didn't turn out the way I wanted to Chris is a lot more reasonable about the wi movie than I would yeah on the other hand after having seen a real a lot of really bad science fiction in you know the like 10 15 years intervening I watch it again and going it may not be a great movie but it's hardly the worst one out there I I was so desperate to say this earlier but when Chris was here I didn't want to uh so nobody tell Chris this the I went to the premiere of The Wing Commander

600. 08:41:34

     movie uh John gunel the designer of uh wi lead designer wi secret off designer wi prophecy came up to me after the premiere and he says uh well at least it was better than ice Pirates it's not better than ice bring that full circle we have a photograph of that moment he wore a big tie-dye wingk Comm shirt he did which I own now I bought his old on eBay every story there's multiple layers I had actually never seen wi come out of the movie until I worked here I watched it like after the first month I gu probably this might come up in conversation I should see it well everything has a history Star Citizen didn't come from nothing I mean

601. 08:42:22

     I think one thing that a lot of people Express surprise about yeah I remember being the only one in the theater for Fletch livs wow but I mean some people ask wow this Star Citizen really came out of nowhere it says no you have to you have to bank an awful lot of Goodwill from a long time ago to do anything like this it's not like any idiot can just say I'm going to crowd fund the game and raise 100 million FL would be a good TV series if they actually adapted the original books yeah the the the the Chevy Chase movie were were quite different than the books uh uh but Fletch would make an excellent TV show is that one of those things Kev try to make probably F would make an excellent TV show just Lando out my friends and I

602. 08:43:17

     were the only ones in Monkey bones well that's as it should have been monkey what monkey bone that terrible brenen fras half animated movie okay don't know about it probably the better for it they're saying that you should not let the tiger claw explode yeah the original Fletch books were are are really good they're fun almost nothing like the Chevy Chase movies although I will admit I like the Chevy Chase movies that was a big fan of Chevy Chase before he forgot how to be funny one problem I having if you're wondering why I'm not using my misses is

603. 08:44:05

     that uh they're not firing I restart the client after this well that makes things unnecessarily difficult doesn't it does be really useful right now B Miss don't work C the frame rate is most definitely not

604. 08:45:01

     helping no it's a known issue when there are too many ships nearby sometimes guns or missiles won't fire I don't that it is there we what is the best gaming snack food NE sticks Reese's chocolate and peanut butter spread right out of the jar I was actually I I bought a jar I was going to bring it with me and then I lost the ability to eat anything I'm doing much better now the pizza hurt for quite for like 20 minutes and the Pain's gone already so there's still something there's still some blockage or something there but it's not nearly as bad I am processing food it's not a that's a I really I

605. 08:45:52

     really like relief actually as a rby I have to say I'm processing food I like the new Red Bull um yellow they have about half a dozen different flavors now and they they prototyped it as tropical Red Bull or summertime Red Bull oh that was good I tried that yeah and now that now it's permanent you can get it Target or everywhere um there Red Bull yellow and it's like a kind of like Ruby Red Grapefruit shot in your Red Bull it's not bad there are worse things I suppose I ate plenty of fiber end outs because I was in the emergency room this morning with a bleeding intestinal trap yeah sometimes intestines bleed yeah sometimes intestines

606. 08:46:47

     bleed more how many graa are there there's so many graa and helps those who help himself yeah that's my uh this was my thing from the r room this morning you know it might not have been Knight

607. 08:47:36

     to killed me last time there's also a random Raper around here all there's no name as so again I love I love the game's dedication to making sure there's cap when 2.0 is live and everything you need to go through and do all the missions in there there's some really good stuff in there oh I played uh I played the compat one well it's it's a whole series you go through and you you pick up a bunch of these like data recordings and stuff the audio team in boundary is they're really King ass Le is really good there yeah he knows it he and and I'm okay with that I'm okay I'm okay when you have have an

608. 08:48:25

     ego and you can back it up with skills and and and Lee Bard has skills he can he can have his uh he can have his ego yeah it's that last yeah this also I like to say Le Bard looks like I got a little hot out there sir oh my throat hurts so bad I'm really not enjoying m 2 Wave 3 I think you can r welcome back mavick report and keep it short Guess the deal is knock him down to one tell your old man to shut up blow up the cigar yes sir I launch ran out one doing AG the strike force oh wait that's when I first arrived didn't seem at all that bad just AAR with J was that it I should have guessed that another

609. 08:49:13

     Wing is on its way in I figured that out through all these Miss fine did you trar or not do you not hear the music playing there's actually a live band on the tigers called it please need to outside M between you and our G their history for the record you killed 14 our gers didn't kill any I got to himself and how many smashed themselves into the hole of the CL dismissed all right we'll pull the draw drawing for the starf raffles's already closed guys this this is a military game maybe it should be a starf far Gemini he's drunk with power he's drunk

610. 08:50:05

     with power all right the winner of a starf far Gemini toast gr 45 gr 45 joined twitch 70 days ago the winner of starf far Gemini grew good job excellent ey raffling uh send a a private message to the cig Community twitch channel uh with the email of your star assistant account and we'll attribute your starf far Gemini next week if for any reason you don't have a starf account or Star assist account wow I'm tired already you can go to robertsspaceindustries.com register for an account there and then send us the email that you use to register your account and we'll attribute your starf Gemini uh next week then the final raffle we have one level

611. 08:51:00

     left one final raffle you just didn't the starf far Gemini that was a pretty good upgrade how how we going to top a Starfire Gemini Aurora es time to finish this fair you really want to push that Aurora es don't you I like the Aurora best of luck to you liutenant car Blair I'm sure everybody in the audience would hate me though Aurora Mr hey there Maverick I'm sure I'll be flying against the Zar soon in case you don't succeed you have to take out that for me Butthead I know that I'll be the one to do it just like in my dream but if I die too quickly that it's

612. 08:51:49

     up to you Maverick I mean butthead use your misss first but if nothing else works I want you to hit them at ramming speed just just die I to do that myself just in case you know just die go and die Butthead remember the description for maniac and like what was it the wing Commander 3 strategy guide or something that said use him like a grenade pull the pin throw him at the enemy stay away his attitude now oh good day Maverick I'm glad to talk to someone besides our resident lunatic I've been writing a letter home just in case we don't make it back have you seen the latest holix of my family

613. 08:52:38

     Maverick no boss can't say that I have I'd like to show them to you later I miss them very much a no not open right now I hope this Mission ends soon so we can return to Vega they're going to kill him all right Ben what ship well I have decided I'm going save my game first um so I have on my account a glaive this makes sense it's we captured a Dy earlier that we then give it back away so we could end this thing by giving away a gla

614. 08:53:29

     that's you Ben I didn't save that for all right so we're starting the now this raffle is for an Asperia Glade oo tough ship to buy we didn't even sell it at our anniversary sale yeah earn it really this is the one I earned by beating uh V SW all right now of course if we can't beat particular missions we don't give it away yeah we'll just be playing forever drifting endlessly through space I feel if I can't do this one toast can though so we're good I'm sure yeah this is actually about the time

615. 08:54:16

     that the one in September ended except that started a little bit later actually yeah we made up some time Mission briefing unknown sector named vid everybody present good yeah didn't actually take us to we're now ready to go after the seabar this is the best shot we'll get at her so let's make it count I've had difficulty deciding which pilot I should send first have you to his death because they're likely to meet the greatest resistance after our first strike launches the claw will move to a new vantage point where we will be launching the remaining wings with any luck the SAR won't expect

616. 08:55:04

     attack from two separate vectors all through this Mission the SAR has been escorted by a substantial Fleet we picked off that Fleet Ship by ship but we can't be sure we've nailed all of them so be very careful out there now listen up what have you been doing before we've lost a lot of good people during this operation I don't want to lose anymore on this Mission Angel give him hell but don't accept any in kind Maniac I want you to stay alive during this one I know about your nightmares but sir but hey

617. 08:55:55

     sir I want to kill myself they're just dreams kid this is what's real and I need you alive yes sir why is everybody else asleep boss man stay cautious just don't be too cautious good job boss man Knight you've always been a pro don't get sloppy now what a dick thing to say I'm online and up to speed sir you've never had a problem being sloppy so don't get sloppy now Spirit if you Harbor any romantic Notions about self-sacrifice before the mission I like to remind every pilot not to kill them themselves glad to hear

618. 08:56:46

     it Paladin flying a desk is better than breathing vacuum just trust me on that okay are you saying that so you can get drunk at me retirement party sir Maverick I'm just going to ignore Paladin no AC acrobatics nothing fancy just do your job I I sir you consider what the commander said you will do your job he said don't die ever you're team with night again as Omega Wing here's the scenario head first and Na One try to destroy any of the remaining support Fleet they are not your main objective though that's the sear at nav 2 if you're able to

619. 08:57:34

     destroy the sear hit your afterburners and come home Rond Vu with the Tiger Claw nav 3 questions no good luck it's no um nope dismissed i s two hours in last 36 hours are we in rap it's just it's green on the outside and then you go inside and it's brown it's a horrible PC beige color very high-tech color

620. 08:58:24

     put welcome for those asteroids always these asteroids 250 is the safe speed in Asteroid fields someone murdering something in the other room yes this is known we do need a front door it's going to take a lot of elbow

621. 08:59:12

     breas yes the raffle is going on right now it's a glaive away my God you caught bad your intestines are so backed up you caught bad my neck doesn't hurt right now man you have for a long time don't get sloppy Knight like killing your wing leader yeah thanks you did a lot of work now ships won't be given out tomorrow

622. 09:00:01

     tomorrow's Sunday I ain't doing nothing Sunday actually agreed to take s here also I don't know if you check your email where do CU she wrote back now so we can do it at 9:30 instead of 1 are you serious yes oh my no I can't oh L1 will be here though L1 will be here that's good then actually that that is a good thing they don't have to

623. 09:00:56

     yeah the is that CU I forgot about a cramp thanks how long were you holding on to

624. 09:02:20

     that what yes there's still people here doing

625. 09:03:17

     destruction yes Disco oh it doesn't do any good inputting raffle command multiple times it only counts once I was curious does it uh if I say rle Bunch can I more than once no I think you can set it so that if you Ender it more than once you're disqualified right not that we've done that DC or Marvel I'm a Marvel head although my first Comics were DC and I collected DC for many many years uh they started this new 52 thing I was on board I bought every single book all 52 books

626. 09:04:06

     for the first year I really tried to give it a go I just DC just lost me I'm a big fan of Marvel by the way night ran home he stole his two kills and called it a day yep great that's the Saar that's the Saar yeah

627. 09:05:13

     there's the gold post look like a Christmas tree ornament without a Christmas tree what forgot to bring today bring it Monday Christmas tree oh you bringing a Christmas tree well uh yeah the um Got A Charlie Brown Christmas tree for the office oh nice it's kind of funny that the Charlie Brown Christmas tree is an artificial tree by the way when you see a cap ship say something like that what it means is that you're within 5,000 km of

628. 09:06:01

     it after playing so much Wing Commander I wonder if you guys are already tired of it we're tired but not of it we're tired cuz we're tired I have come back to this game over and over again for 25 years I get tired of it it's not going to be tonight yeah I mean if anything I I'm at this I was kind of tired Midway didn't doing so well but it's picked up and I uh I'm eager to play more we that will not happen tonight no April second you win toast runs and tells this guy gives that construction guys 10-minute warning we're out 10 minutes after that well considering how little you've slept

629. 09:06:49

     in the last uh 36 hours yeah I don't blame you one bit there'll do more Wing Commander for another day or after all three more of these games that Chris produced hey King noobs try behaving in chat be that's a jerk there's really no reason to be a jerk in the you know the crazy win matter nerd live streaming if you don't like us just go somewhere else just having fun I feel like we're among the least tful people there are I don't know I'm sure toast could cause great harm oh yeah we don't include toast

630. 09:07:39

     and qualifiers about people yeah I do have a bad side it's really really hard to get on it though but if you've gone to the trouble I'll make it worth your while do you he people SLE again so you are you running back to the Tiger Claw after this goes up well my question I so I'm trying to take it out before I kill that cran right I'm curious if if you take out the star Post in the first Mission the other waves don't spawn I they may not let you get away

631. 09:08:29

     with that in this version we'll see you have 11 heavy Fighters coming your way after this if spawn tell after that first the first live stream we did with this I had the music stuck in my head for like days and then T sits down at his computer and just turns on Wing commander and I'm like I'm like oh so much cuz I'd never played wiand before so that that live stream was my first exposure the first Wing my first exposure that music so I had it drilled into my head and you know that single sitting then he starts playing it and

632. 09:09:18

     I'm like is this in my head or am I actually hearing it is s the season finale of Dr it is I'll watch that tomorrow why do you guys come overwat we will as long as Lando's caught up on his sleep what are we going to do tomorrow come watch the doct with us I I'm

633. 09:10:06

     actually Che two episodes behind I got to watch the last two episodes actually shoot I might be three epis did any characters die not yet no I already caught when yeah everyone knows everyone knows oh no it makes more guys spawn okay we got more fighting to do do although you know I can just H back are do yes of course I almost di

634. 09:10:59

     after and that's not it's a good time to use friend fire forget someone just brought up transverse I forgot all about thate a weird bit of History I think that'll get a a paragraph in the Star Citizen story someday I will write a win Commander history and then we we'll get in trans forgot all about that it was supposed to be a win

635. 09:11:48

     commander game yeah they some jerky a wanted to show us up yes here here is secret missions ultimate F2 which is that there's a squadron of cramp attacking the Tiger's flaw after you've destroyed the sear and gotten home and there's no cap and we're completely out of fuel yeah imagine if you did stick around to that on your five six graa I know right this crap like I'd say other than just a huge numbers of enemy ships I think I mentioned this before fuel suddenly becomes a really important resource

636. 09:12:36

     where you just didn't have to worry about it in the first game and every time I sat down to play today I just like don't overuse it yeah stand off like that too standoffs really like that when you can get upwards of like 50 kills in one this is just cool at least there's on graa piling missiles into the tiger

637. 09:13:33

     last one will you ever a stream wi Commander 3 and four on their 25th anniversaries yes this is the 25th anniversary of secret missions so that's why we're doing it and our 25th anniversary of secret missions to we'll do that for Pur not that the TR actually yesterday we uh ke the we did it's yesterday somewhere it's not yesterday anyway we had to work yesterday when we started it was yesterday somewhere it's true wo did it we did it we did secret Mion one nice team effort wo oh man all right look like got poop on the side of your ship though poop everywhere that's just when toast comes back he doesn't

638. 09:14:21

     have poop on his ship he has a lot of holes and a lot of battle damage there's no poop on the side of his ship you look like you got yourself pooped up Sir debriefing we got the kill on record Maverick congratulations thought that was a secret mission I can put on a record personally I knew you'd come through for us I will see to that the Confederation High commands rewards you for this you're getting 50 what do you have to add to the report not much are had a strong fighter escort my

639. 09:15:11

     guess is that the heavier ships dot dot dot we've already maneuvered out system maybe they thought they could intercept the tig SP and prevent our strike like the fro have one that ship is dusted Sarah but sear still had a wing of CR JY and grao and ready5 crant jolty and graa sounds like 70s band quter shows you with King 15 M show KN with two and he cowardly ran away yes sir but I managed to bag the

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     SE D compared to that nothing else really matters much does it wow blue hair what's going on damn right mck you stuck a fatal blow to their plans for conquering Humanity this campaign has had an effect on everyone's personality now it's time to go home now I bet you're curious why don't the kathi just build another seabar that is answered in super Wing Commander where they have an additional set of missions between secret missions one and two which tell has tells the story of the tiger CL going and destroying the sear shipyards I promise I didn't want that I like to Fan theory that it was a steeltech weapon but then we wouldn't have the phase Transit Cannon for excellence in combat K

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     the honor about honor about honor about honor about H 24148 actually 26 55199 not place they don't keep records in the future where would that be from the ter Confederation St the transfer think I think theer calendar has the day thear DED ah okay Gold Star Gold Star that's it good work you get a gold star your courage is an example to the confederation's finest Defenders that's that's worth at least a metal cheese well done B

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     congratulations you can hear paper thank you filled with pride you meet the Applause rates Yeah Boy meanwhile meanwhile the throne chamber of the emperor of KRA the former Grand admiral of the Ki Empire stands before his master there's nothing to be said the Admiral is Loy of Thea and his emperor and he knows the price of his failure the emperor has demanded an apology for the defeat of the karath

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     strike Fleet and an apology must be given an echo of the Emerald's dying scream lingers in the air then silence um adding aert to that the adal is actually his son gilar nanka um this marks a significant turning point of the war gilar had been effectively running the war effort for 20 years uh now his his son ever's grandson Prince thrat is going to take over see we got we got that 15 Mission because we we got to um that secret missions one as I mentioned earlier there's an alternate ending in the uh SN verion bring up the

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     uh images we done with this yeah done with this goodbye SEC missions you served us well metal cheeseburger what oh thank you in the pature things okay so here open this uh here in the uh on that in the uh Super Nintendo version if you play on rookie rather than Ace and the throne of the emperor of K the emperor is displeased AR I don't know what's going on this a stupid windows 10 player it's the same one next oh it's an animated gift I guess I

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     saved it well anyway uh he he allows the Admiral to live in the Super Nintendo one if you play in rookie because he was he has the shame of being defeated by a rookie pilot and it tells you to Play It Again on Ace so um that's that uh trying to think of other things I wanted to mention before we end uh in terms of ports this is this is available in all sorts of wink wink one Delux it's on the win one2 CD there was a port that's just secret missions one and two together for the Japanese FM towns computer if you're interested in real wi Commander Arcana that's one to look up you got a Cy there yep it's this one that in the itic box uh so for the FM towns and they just uh it's both of them in a stand lone and executable um unfortunately there's

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     nothing the box I think it's just a CD and is that the Japanese reference card CD this is oh no there Super Nintendo version uh there's version for the uh Playstation Portable in the Vita uh and that is it for secret missions One Ports uh Chris brought a uh the pal version if you want to compare the uh can see there's here the uh the pal version the European and the US version of the uh SNES game uh there was also there was no Japanese version this was not released in Japan unlike the others um ports I think we're ready to let's let's

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     pick out our winner and get some much needed to sleep all right and the winner of the Aurora es is not Aurora es what is it it's it's a uh it's a glaive it's a glaive away glaive away the winner is Thomas syan caman Thomas caman and we're going to send you a copy win Comm one on Gog um because we promised that also so yes so Thomas just send a private message to cig Community twitch Channel include your email address that your star assistant account is on and for this include your yeah your email address that'll be fine cuz we can do that with the uh Gog too unless you have your Gog on a different account then we it's just it's all code based so that's right I'm tired but uh yeah send us your email that your start

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     accounts on for any reason you don't have a star account you go to robertsspaceindustries.com register account and send us that email and we'll give you your asparia glay next week well guys I hope you enjoyed that um I'm really excited coming back for secret missions 2 that's going to be in April uh maybe Chris can come down again maybe that would pretty cool uh I thought it was really cool to talk to Chris Roberts about random wi Commander stuff uh it was also nice to Sandy clean my office uh organize my office um and uh just I I had a great time I hope you guys did too uh love doing this stuff yep y thanks for joining us how long was this stream in total we did this now nine and a half hours okay not not too far off the last time about the same

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     as the original wi Commander all right guys thanks for tuning in uh next week if you're a star s fans we've got a special subscriber only reverse to verse on Wednesday at 11 uh then we're ATV like normal on Thursday with the second part of that Tony zurc interview you're going to want to check that out if you're a fan of staris and a lot of cool information on that and then we'll be back here on Friday for our regular reverse the verse and the week after that is the Christmas live stream on the 16th holiday live holiday live sorry it's it's not really Christmas celebration the Star season celebration um there's something very very cool in this one there's something very so stay tuned there's a lot of cool stuff to look at like it does this and stuff it's cool good night everybody good night thank you for